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Emma Hilton vs ChatGPT - transgender men should freeze their sperm before transing!?!

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RandySavage · 30/01/2025 09:43

I hope I've added the link correctly

https://x.com/FondOfBeetles/status/1884749511010013295

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RandySavage · 30/01/2025 09:44

It is actually similar to arguing with many TRAs

Emma Hilton vs ChatGPT - transgender men should freeze their sperm before transing!?!
Emma Hilton vs ChatGPT - transgender men should freeze their sperm before transing!?!
Emma Hilton vs ChatGPT - transgender men should freeze their sperm before transing!?!
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RandySavage · 30/01/2025 09:45

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Emma Hilton vs ChatGPT - transgender men should freeze their sperm before transing!?!
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RandySavage · 30/01/2025 09:47

As Emma says, it does eventually start to learn.
The whole chat is an example of stating what you want to be true rather than what is true.

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Emma Hilton vs ChatGPT - transgender men should freeze their sperm before transing!?!
Emma Hilton vs ChatGPT - transgender men should freeze their sperm before transing!?!
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Runor · 30/01/2025 09:51

😂😂😂

it’s almost as if we need definitions of the terms we’re using - if only that wasn’t a dog whistle (whatever that is!)

Runor · 30/01/2025 09:52

Wonder if Deep Seek can do any better?!

DeanElderberry · 30/01/2025 10:45

It's like one of those Star Trek 'Kirk (or B'Ellana) reasons a computer to death' episodes.

Toseland · 30/01/2025 12:00

So even ChatGPT doesn't know what a 'transgender man' is?!

DeanElderberry · 30/01/2025 12:09

It is quite interesting watching the way the slippery QT crowd keep mangling language - carefully no longer using transman or transwoman suggests people were starting to understand what those words mean, and they couldn't have that, could they now.

Crackedaboneagain · 30/01/2025 12:23

I saw this yesterday and thought yikes, even ChatGPT is having a mental breakdown trying to figure them out. I'm not alone 😭

NoBinturongsHereMate · 30/01/2025 12:55

Runor · 30/01/2025 09:52

Wonder if Deep Seek can do any better?!

The BBC piece on DeepSeek yesterday made a big thing out of the fact it has built in censorship, so it won't tell you about Tiananmen Sq. Weirdly they failed to mention the deliberate gaps and refusals built into western LLMs.

DeanElderberry · 30/01/2025 13:01

queering the discourse

Herewegoagain29 · 30/01/2025 13:45

You can see how after a few generations of computing AI may end up just a big pile of garbled crap which has no bearing on reality, like this image (from Reddit) that .ai did when asked for a picture of salmon swimming in a stream:

Emma Hilton vs ChatGPT - transgender men should freeze their sperm before transing!?!
Brainworm · 30/01/2025 13:56

DeanElderberry · 30/01/2025 12:09

It is quite interesting watching the way the slippery QT crowd keep mangling language - carefully no longer using transman or transwoman suggests people were starting to understand what those words mean, and they couldn't have that, could they now.

I've missed the memo! What are the latest terms being used?

TheSandgroper · 30/01/2025 13:58

Well, it seems MustLoveBeetles did well just getting a response from AI because others don’t.

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DeanElderberry · 30/01/2025 14:03

Brainworm · 30/01/2025 13:56

I've missed the memo! What are the latest terms being used?

Transgender men and transgender women. Even AI doesn't know what that means.

inkymoose · 30/01/2025 14:30

DeanElderberry · 30/01/2025 14:03

Transgender men and transgender women. Even AI doesn't know what that means.

What was the American sitcom that used to go "confused? You will be!"

So… What is a transgender man then?

< unable to follow this twisted logic>

DeanElderberry · 30/01/2025 14:38

< unable to follow this twisted logic>

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inkymoose · 30/01/2025 14:38

inkymoose · 30/01/2025 14:30

What was the American sitcom that used to go "confused? You will be!"

So… What is a transgender man then?

< unable to follow this twisted logic>

Found it! It was a sitcom called SOAP.

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NoBinturongsHereMate · 30/01/2025 14:46

A transgender man is a woman who thinks she's a man. Not to be confused with a trans identified male, who's a man who thinks he's a woman.

Clear as mud.

DeanElderberry · 30/01/2025 14:51

I agree, but that thread a few weeks ago kept referring to the teenage male who thought he was a young woman as a 'transgender girl' as did the Daily Mail.

it isn't just AI that getting turned around.

inkymoose · 30/01/2025 16:28

NoBinturongsHereMate · 30/01/2025 14:46

A transgender man is a woman who thinks she's a man. Not to be confused with a trans identified male, who's a man who thinks he's a woman.

Clear as mud.

Aaaargh! Impossible!

Thank you for trying to clarify.

Fordian · 30/01/2025 20:09

In a nutshell, I think this is why there isn't more outrage from women about transwomen- most think they are actual biological women!

popeydokey · 30/01/2025 20:22

I don't see the issue?
It's been trained on gender-logic. That's what a lot of the arguments sound like... Grin

popeydokey · 30/01/2025 20:24

Actually, ChatGPT apologises for "misspeaking" when it's said utter nonsense, so not entirely in keeping with the posters we get round here.

PriOn1 · 30/01/2025 21:06

We are going to have a very long fight on our hands when it comes to technology and it’s the one area I’m not confident we can ever win. Given the number of men who claim they are women, who are also tech nerds, who also seem to be permanently online, changing Wikipedia and training AI in gender gobbledygook, it’s likely to be an intractable problem.

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