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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Motherless mice - Brave New World

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Imnobody4 · 28/01/2025 17:38

Chinese scientists have created a mouse with two fathers using a technique that may one day allow gay men to have children biologically related to both parents
www.thetimes.com/article/238bccbc-ffe1-410e-a1db-97c8f4e9352e?shareToken=08fbc2f7b9b75c0592645276bb8ac046

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Imnobody4 · 28/01/2025 17:39

The spirit of Mengele lives on.

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RedToothBrush · 28/01/2025 17:40

The mice did have a mother...

These were used to create embryos, which were implanted into surrogate female mice.

Can we stop it with the lies and twisting the truth and ignoring the glaringly obvious.

theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 28/01/2025 18:12

RedToothBrush · 28/01/2025 17:40

The mice did have a mother...

These were used to create embryos, which were implanted into surrogate female mice.

Can we stop it with the lies and twisting the truth and ignoring the glaringly obvious.

They have a mitochondrial mother (from the second enucleated egg, a father (from the second, normal, sperm), a gestational mother (the surrogate) and ... the new bit. The new bit is the dna from the first sperm, having been edited with Crispr so as to make it more 'egg-like' (plus I guess it must be an X sperm). There is no genetic mother. It sounds like a terrible idea.

ETA I suppose that, because of recombination in every generation, all of the first sperm's dna could ultimately be tracked back to a female ancestor at some remove. Still a terrible idea.

FizzingAda · 28/01/2025 19:23

Jurassic Squeak.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 28/01/2025 19:55

Of Mice and Men - Superman

user83652 · 28/01/2025 20:10

I suppose the same men will need a woman's body to breastfeed the baby because it's "their right". She can then be discarded after weaning.

JanesLittleGirl · 28/01/2025 21:00

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Boiledbeetle · 28/01/2025 21:18

JanesLittleGirl · 28/01/2025 21:00

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Totally agree.

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