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JKR on more people accepting reality and rewriting history

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fromorbit · 02/12/2024 15:47

The surge in Reverse Ferreting after the the US election has resulted in another great post from JKR written in response to the New York Times article saying "Transgender Activists Question the Movement’s Confrontational Approach".

J.K. Rowling

The rewriting of history begins.

Opponents of gender ideology haven't merely 'endured unsparing criticism'. I haven't simply been told I 'betrayed real feminism' or received a few book-burning videos. I've been sent thousands of threats of murder, rape and violence. A trans woman posted my family's home address with a bomb-making guide. My eldest child was targeted by a prominent trans activist who attempted to doxx her and ended up doxxing the wrong young woman.

I could write a twenty thousand word essay on what the consequences have been to me and my family, and what we've endured is NOTHING compared to the harm done to others. By standing up to a movement that relies on threats of violence, ostracisation and guilt-by-association, all of us have been smeared and defamed, but many have lost their livelihoods. Some have been physically assaulted by trans activists. Female politicians have been forced to hire personal security on the advice of police. The news that one of the UK's leading endocrinologists, Dr Hillary Cass, was advised not to travel by public transport for her own safety should shame everyone who let this insanity run amok.

Lest we forget, gender apostates have been targeted for crimes such as doubting the evidential basis for transitioning children, for arguing for fair sport for women and girls, for wanting to retain single sex spaces and services, especially for the most vulnerable, and for thinking it barbaric to lock in female prisoners with convicted male sex offenders.

Now the political landscape has shifted, and some who've been riding high on their own supply are waking up with a hell of a hangover. They've started wondering whether calling left-wing feminists who wanted all-female rape centres 'Nazis' was such a smart strategy. Maybe parents arguing that boys ought not to be robbing their daughters of sporting opportunities might, sort of, have a point? Possibly letting any man who says 'I'm a woman' into the locker room with twelve-year-old girls could have a downside, after all?

Mealy-mouthed retconning of what has actually happened over the past ten years is predictable but will not stand. I don't doubt those who've turned a blind eye to the purges of non-believers, or even applauded and encouraged them, would rather minimise what the true cost of speaking out was, but 'yes, maybe trans activists went a little over the top at times' takes are frankly insulting. A full reckoning on the effects of gender ideology on individuals, society and politics is still a long way off, but I know this: the receipts will make very ugly reading when that time comes, and there are far too many of them to sweep politely under the carpet.
https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1863579675877884385

Plenty of people on Mumsnet towers are noticing a shift. We are entering a new stage of the gender wars. There will be an attempt to shift the blame onto women who pointed out biology is real.

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https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1863579675877884385

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/12/2024 16:19

She's so right. Wonderful woman.

Lottapianos · 02/12/2024 16:20

Clear and brave and brilliant from her as always

GailBlancheViola · 02/12/2024 16:24

Totally right as always, clear and unequivocal.

FranticFrankie · 02/12/2024 16:25

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 JKR

Circumferences · 02/12/2024 16:32

There's nothing more infuriating than the mealy mouthed ignorance "both sides are as bad as each other" when NEVER have both "sides" been as bad as TRA!

On the one side:
"TWAW, No debate."

The other
"Errm actually no, TW are different to W but still deserve some respect an-"

"SHUT UP AND DIE in a grease fire you Terf, I'm going to come to your house and rape you, I'll see to it that you'll lose your job and I'll make your life a living hell for daring to point out completely acceptable, normal, ordinary facts of life"

The abuse has only ever been one sided. It's been relentless, demoralising and terrifying.

I agree with every word JKR has said she's nailed it as usual.

Hoardasurass · 02/12/2024 16:34

Circumferences · 02/12/2024 16:32

There's nothing more infuriating than the mealy mouthed ignorance "both sides are as bad as each other" when NEVER have both "sides" been as bad as TRA!

On the one side:
"TWAW, No debate."

The other
"Errm actually no, TW are different to W but still deserve some respect an-"

"SHUT UP AND DIE in a grease fire you Terf, I'm going to come to your house and rape you, I'll see to it that you'll lose your job and I'll make your life a living hell for daring to point out completely acceptable, normal, ordinary facts of life"

The abuse has only ever been one sided. It's been relentless, demoralising and terrifying.

I agree with every word JKR has said she's nailed it as usual.

It the same crap women always get from men when we say no

PersonIrresponsible · 02/12/2024 16:37

The woman has been a living saint for quite some time in my eyes.

Alalalala · 02/12/2024 16:41

Exceptional as ever, JKR.

tobee · 02/12/2024 16:41

👏

allthatfalafel · 02/12/2024 16:51

I don't think it's going to age well, in ten years it will look as horrific as old essays defending homophobic views from the past look today.

JellySaurus · 02/12/2024 16:52

Awesome woman 💪

Words · 02/12/2024 16:53

What is 'retconning'?

lifeinthelastlane · 02/12/2024 16:54

allthatfalafel · 02/12/2024 16:51

I don't think it's going to age well, in ten years it will look as horrific as old essays defending homophobic views from the past look today.

Which parts of the article would you say sound like outdated prejudiced views?

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 02/12/2024 16:56

Brilliant, as usual, I'm so glad she didn't just sit on her millions and ignore the situation, having someone so high profile and articulate as her has made a big difference for those of us on the side of reality. 😊👍🎉

heathspeedwell · 02/12/2024 17:00

When things seem bad, it's always such a boost to know that someone as insightful, intelligent and compassionate as JK Rowling is on our side.

CrossPurposes · 02/12/2024 17:04

allthatfalafel · 02/12/2024 16:51

I don't think it's going to age well, in ten years it will look as horrific as old essays defending homophobic views from the past look today.

If there is such a thing as the right side of history, you aren't on it.

HowYouSpellingThat10 · 02/12/2024 17:10

She is bloody brilliant.

What is frightening is how few people have been able to take her stance. Without someone uncancelable prepared to put everything on the line, I fear how far this would have gone.

Regardless of where you sit on this debate, from a free speech perspective this has been terrifying.

Datun · 02/12/2024 17:12

allthatfalafel · 02/12/2024 16:51

I don't think it's going to age well, in ten years it will look as horrific as old essays defending homophobic views from the past look today.

"...calling left-wing feminists who wanted all-female rape centres 'Nazis' was such a smart strategy. Maybe parents arguing that boys ought not to be robbing their daughters of sporting opportunities might, sort of, have a point? Possibly letting any man who says 'I'm a woman' into the locker room with twelve-year-old girls could have a downside, after all?"

I can't imagine what sort of world you inhabit where you think this looks anything other than horrifying, but it clearly exists. And I'm sure there are people who thoroughly enjoy their stay.

Datun · 02/12/2024 17:13

I'm glad she's done this.

She doesn't strike me as the vengeful sort, but accountability must be had

Ingenieur · 02/12/2024 17:24

Words · 02/12/2024 16:53

What is 'retconning'?

Retro-active continuity is a storytelling decice where past pieces of media are no longer considered canon.

Basically it means rewriting the past, especially where it is done to suit a new agenda.

frazzled1 · 02/12/2024 17:30

JKR Flowers

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/26/us/politics/transgender-activists-rights.html

unsparing criticism yeah right.....🙄

The article seems to imply GCs will be welcomed into the TRA fold when they've come round... so don't be so mean to them.

“We have to make it OK for someone to change their minds,” said Rodrigo Heng-Lehtinen, executive director of Advocates for Transgender Equality. “We cannot vilify them for not being on our side. No one wants to join that team.”

Mr. Heng-Lehtinen, 38, who grew up in a prominent Republican family in Florida and came out to them as transgender after college, said that as painful as Mr. Trump’s election may be for transgender people, their movement should see the benefit in treating skeptics less like enemies and more like future allies “No one wants to feel stupid or condescended to,” Mr. Heng-Lehtinen said..

“It is our job to break the misinformation down and to say compassionately, ‘It’s perfectly understandable that you have questions,’” Mr. Heng-Lehtinen said.

Put more directly, he added, “That’s not yelling at someone.”

SquirrelSoShiny · 02/12/2024 17:34

fromorbit · 02/12/2024 15:47

The surge in Reverse Ferreting after the the US election has resulted in another great post from JKR written in response to the New York Times article saying "Transgender Activists Question the Movement’s Confrontational Approach".

J.K. Rowling

The rewriting of history begins.

Opponents of gender ideology haven't merely 'endured unsparing criticism'. I haven't simply been told I 'betrayed real feminism' or received a few book-burning videos. I've been sent thousands of threats of murder, rape and violence. A trans woman posted my family's home address with a bomb-making guide. My eldest child was targeted by a prominent trans activist who attempted to doxx her and ended up doxxing the wrong young woman.

I could write a twenty thousand word essay on what the consequences have been to me and my family, and what we've endured is NOTHING compared to the harm done to others. By standing up to a movement that relies on threats of violence, ostracisation and guilt-by-association, all of us have been smeared and defamed, but many have lost their livelihoods. Some have been physically assaulted by trans activists. Female politicians have been forced to hire personal security on the advice of police. The news that one of the UK's leading endocrinologists, Dr Hillary Cass, was advised not to travel by public transport for her own safety should shame everyone who let this insanity run amok.

Lest we forget, gender apostates have been targeted for crimes such as doubting the evidential basis for transitioning children, for arguing for fair sport for women and girls, for wanting to retain single sex spaces and services, especially for the most vulnerable, and for thinking it barbaric to lock in female prisoners with convicted male sex offenders.

Now the political landscape has shifted, and some who've been riding high on their own supply are waking up with a hell of a hangover. They've started wondering whether calling left-wing feminists who wanted all-female rape centres 'Nazis' was such a smart strategy. Maybe parents arguing that boys ought not to be robbing their daughters of sporting opportunities might, sort of, have a point? Possibly letting any man who says 'I'm a woman' into the locker room with twelve-year-old girls could have a downside, after all?

Mealy-mouthed retconning of what has actually happened over the past ten years is predictable but will not stand. I don't doubt those who've turned a blind eye to the purges of non-believers, or even applauded and encouraged them, would rather minimise what the true cost of speaking out was, but 'yes, maybe trans activists went a little over the top at times' takes are frankly insulting. A full reckoning on the effects of gender ideology on individuals, society and politics is still a long way off, but I know this: the receipts will make very ugly reading when that time comes, and there are far too many of them to sweep politely under the carpet.
https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1863579675877884385

Plenty of people on Mumsnet towers are noticing a shift. We are entering a new stage of the gender wars. There will be an attempt to shift the blame onto women who pointed out biology is real.

I am so truly grateful for JKR for so many reasons ❤️

Giggorata · 02/12/2024 17:36

Brava, JKR! 💜 🤍💚

Words · 02/12/2024 17:36

Ahh.Ok.

Thanks for your second sentence as your first made no sense to me whatsoever ( despite three degrees and brain size of planet etc.)

I think we need to avoid dense and obscure terminology in debates like this.

I need to go back and read that article again I think.

The past is always rewritten. It is why history exists. Context is all. But context has been eroded through the availability of information ( not knowledge) through the Internet - and now AI takes it a thousand miles further.

JustCrow · 02/12/2024 17:39

She’s a fucking Queen.