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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

AI Thinks Men Can’t Clean Toilets…

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CaveMum · 13/11/2024 17:04

Interesting (and unsurprising) article on AI image generators being unable to come up with a suitable image of a man cleaning a toilet. It goes to show that the data these AIs are being trained on is inherently biased and as more people become reliant on using them for information, the more warped reality becomes.

I’m not sure what we can do to combat it, other than keep applying pressure to government and AI companies to mitigate against the bias.

https://community.thefemalelead.com/p/all-i-wanted-was-an-ai-image-of-a?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

All I wanted was an AI image of a man cleaning a toilet

One man seemed to be planning to brush his hair with the toilet brush.

https://community.thefemalelead.com/p/all-i-wanted-was-an-ai-image-of-a

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CaveMum · 13/11/2024 19:42

Magpiecomplex · 13/11/2024 19:39

I use Gemini, which won't do whole people unless you pay, but when given the prompt "draw someone cleaning a toilet" produced what looks like a rather masculine pair of forearms doing all the right things! Score one for Gemini, I think.

This thread may have caused a shift in the data bias with all the requests for men cleaning toilets 🤣

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Sparklfairy · 13/11/2024 19:50

I tried a man dressed as a maid and he suddenly seems to be applying a little more enthusiasm to the task...

The one without glasses is my prompt with AI prompt enhancer turned off. The one with glasses is with it turned on (with it's AI generated interpretation...).

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G5000 · 13/11/2024 19:50

I asked copilot (now to be fair, it was several months ago, hopefully it has improved) for a picture of a trailblazer clearing the road for the team. I got rugged men with axes and shovels. When I asked for a female ones, I got skinny barbie types with long flowing locks, a brush/broom and a dustpan.

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 13/11/2024 19:52

@Sparklfairy it gave your bespectacled man boobs 😂

CaveMum · 13/11/2024 19:52

Sparklfairy · 13/11/2024 19:50

I tried a man dressed as a maid and he suddenly seems to be applying a little more enthusiasm to the task...

The one without glasses is my prompt with AI prompt enhancer turned off. The one with glasses is with it turned on (with it's AI generated interpretation...).

Either those are primary school toilets or the men are really big!

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MarieDeGournay · 13/11/2024 19:54

Magpiecomplex · 13/11/2024 19:39

I use Gemini, which won't do whole people unless you pay, but when given the prompt "draw someone cleaning a toilet" produced what looks like a rather masculine pair of forearms doing all the right things! Score one for Gemini, I think.

Fair nuff. He's good at it too, have you ever seen such a clean toilet, it looks brand new. Maybe men clean toilets when they are brand new, and then pass the baton on, so to speak...Hmm

Sparklfairy · 13/11/2024 19:55

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 13/11/2024 19:52

@Sparklfairy it gave your bespectacled man boobs 😂

I noticed that Grin Is that the answer though? Those DHs that 'don't see mess', all you have to do is get them to dress up in a slightly kinky maid outfit and suddenly they become domestic god(desses)? Because that's what AI seems to think...

Mochudubh · 13/11/2024 19:56

Where are Hunks for Hire when you need them?

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Boiledbeetle · 13/11/2024 19:57

I did a man then a woman. Unsurprisingly the woman know how to clean a toilet, the men do not!!

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Boiledbeetle · 13/11/2024 20:01

RedToothBrush · 13/11/2024 19:09

Also. How do rights hoarding dinosaurs clean bogs please? Bet they know how.

The dinosaurs do not! But are happy to give it a go!

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Sparklfairy · 13/11/2024 20:05

I changed some presets and <swoon> Grin

As an aside, remember when you were 20 and you thought people in their 40s were ancient?!? Surely this is proof that the programmers are Gen Z! The youngest that man is is 49 and 11 months Grin

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Boiledbeetle · 13/11/2024 20:06

ErrolTheDragon · 13/11/2024 19:20

See if it can manage if you specify 'man cleaning toilets in a motorway service station'. They always seem to have 'male cleaner on duty' signs in the women's loos.

Oh my!

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Tootingbec · 13/11/2024 20:14

CaveMum · 13/11/2024 17:06

The images it came up with are pretty hilarious though, it must be said!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Sparklfairy · 13/11/2024 20:18

Okay, so I thought I'd try moving the toilet into the middle of a field. Because I was getting Saw vibes from the men in bathrooms - presumably because for men, cleaning a toilet is the stuff of nightmares.

The first attempt (bottom row) the men forgot their cleaning products. The second attempt, they're using mini brooms...

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Bergamotte · 13/11/2024 20:26

Why is the AI so convinced that brushes should be yellow? (It specified "yellow" and "bright yellow" brushes in the 'improved prompts' people shared and most of the pictures seem to include yellow brushes.)

I have never seen a yellow toilet brush and very rarely any sort of broom or scrubbing brush. Is it getting confused with a sponge?

Bergamotte · 13/11/2024 20:28

Boiledbeetle · 13/11/2024 20:06

Oh my!

So that's why service station toilets are so gross - instead of actually cleaning them, the employee goes in and pees all over the floor!

ifIwerenotanandroid · 13/11/2024 20:30

Boiledbeetle · 13/11/2024 20:06

Oh my!

I'm not buying that colouring book for Christmas.

Boiledbeetle · 13/11/2024 20:36

ifIwerenotanandroid · 13/11/2024 20:30

I'm not buying that colouring book for Christmas.

But I've already started working on it! It's going to be wonderful!

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NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 13/11/2024 20:44

Would my toilets be cleaner if I wore dungarees to clean them?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 13/11/2024 20:46

PurpleSparkledPixie · 13/11/2024 17:14

Why do three of those pictures make the men look almost suicidally depressed??

Because their fembots have malfunctioned, perhaps?

The AI will be making them look sad because AI thinks it's not something they should do.

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 13/11/2024 20:49

@Boiledbeetle it's going to be wonderful, possible the wonderfullest ever toilet cleaning colouring book ever. And, it's gonna have men, possibly the wonderfullest men ever, cleaning the most wonderful toilets ever.

Boiledbeetle · 13/11/2024 20:50

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 13/11/2024 20:49

@Boiledbeetle it's going to be wonderful, possible the wonderfullest ever toilet cleaning colouring book ever. And, it's gonna have men, possibly the wonderfullest men ever, cleaning the most wonderful toilets ever.

And rodents! Rodents are the best toilet cleaners!

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CaveMum · 13/11/2024 20:53

@Boiledbeetle yiu have a very unique talent there 🤣

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Bergamotte · 13/11/2024 20:54

Boiledbeetle · 13/11/2024 20:50

And rodents! Rodents are the best toilet cleaners!

The rodent in your last picture looks a bit glum; he must be male.

CaveMum · 13/11/2024 20:54

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 13/11/2024 20:44

Would my toilets be cleaner if I wore dungarees to clean them?

Only if you wear nothing underneath. Oo er missus!

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