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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

AAP & WPATH trying to keep the lid on transing kids

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lcakethereforeIam · 02/10/2024 11:29

Just read this in Unherd

https://unherd.com/newsroom/american-academy-of-pediatrics-faces-internal-split-over-gender-transitions/

I don't see that this level of lying and secrecy can possibly be sustained. I think it's being maintained by only desperate folk looking for a safe exit or retirement, true believers, who aren't safe to cut up their own food never mind children's bodies, and monsters.

American Academy of Pediatrics faces internal split over gender transitions

Members of the American Academy of Pediatrics who have pushed back against the organisation’s official endorsement of cross-sex medical treatments for minors have been met with a culture of secrecy and intimidation from the leadership, according to AAP...

https://unherd.com/newsroom/american-academy-of-pediatrics-faces-internal-split-over-gender-transitions

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BonfireLady · 02/10/2024 12:03

Thank you for sharing. It sounds like the wheels are somewhat falling off as more health professionals seek to distance themselves from what has been referred to as "tooth fairy science" on a different thread.

The AAP is increasingly sounding like a group of Scientologists, where the top-down ruling of how to think and speak governs everyone, you have to pay to keep a seat at the decision table and you're cast out if you dissent from the prescribed doctrine.

As with Scientology, the science in the gender identity doctrine reads like somewhat of a fantasy novel if you're not a believer yourself - in thetan or gender identities respectively.

UtopiaPlanitia · 02/10/2024 15:34

It’s disgraceful and worrying that so many official regulators have battened down the hatches rather than engage in the scientific method on this issue but this article also shows that more voices are joining the calls for transparency and reevaluation of the standards of care. That’s a hopeful development.

I am more and more convinced that there will have to be serious sanctions for those medical and education professionals who allowed ideology to override good practices in dealing with patients/pupils presenting with ‘gender dysphoria’. I don’t think as a society we can let people in trusted professions away with this behaviour and retain trust in our institutions.

BettyBooper · 02/10/2024 15:55

Wow, Talia Perkins in the comments has some, er, interesting views! 😳😆

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 02/10/2024 16:10

"The policy was adopted despite a lack of consensus among members and a lack of empirical evidence supporting these medical procedures"

A fascinating read, it's seems like more of the same a handful of zealots stream rolling over everyone who disagreed with them.

"The conference’s LGBT affinity group session, slated to last more than five hours, did not allow recording, required attendees’ electronic devices to be shut down, and requested that attendees not share the content of the programming with outsiders. Even the session’s agenda was password protected."

That level of secrecy is a dead give away, they're up to no good.

(The comments sound like they was trolled by a chatbot.) 😂

Ingenieur · 02/10/2024 16:10

BettyBooper · 02/10/2024 15:55

Wow, Talia Perkins in the comments has some, er, interesting views! 😳😆

Wow, yeah!

And yes Talia, I don't accept that gender exists as a quality an individual can possess.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 02/10/2024 16:11

BettyBooper · 02/10/2024 15:55

Wow, Talia Perkins in the comments has some, er, interesting views! 😳😆

I thought the same. Weird 🤯

lcakethereforeIam · 02/10/2024 17:06

Talia is Unherd's me-railer.

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UtopiaPlanitia · 02/10/2024 17:09

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 02/10/2024 16:11

I thought the same. Weird 🤯

Talia is a regular commentator on Unherd stories dealing with these issues and is unpleasantly dogmatic at all times. Reminds me of Cartimandua, a comment poster who used to do the same under stories published in The Times. And of course, I’m sure you’re acquainted with MN’s posse of ploppers.

BonfireLady · 02/10/2024 18:22

OMG.... Talia!

Wow.

Talia's comments are all being downvoted, which is a bit sad in some ways. I mean yes, directly accusing someone of child abuse sounds pretty libelous but surely it's worth an upvote on entertainment value alone?** "Corrupt parasite" and "evil stupidity" were good value too, amongst others.
The more sensible the comment, the more dramatic and ostensibly scathing Talia's reply. Go Talia 💪🙃

** Sarcasm. For clarity.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/10/2024 18:49

UtopiaPlanitia · 02/10/2024 17:09

Talia is a regular commentator on Unherd stories dealing with these issues and is unpleasantly dogmatic at all times. Reminds me of Cartimandua, a comment poster who used to do the same under stories published in The Times. And of course, I’m sure you’re acquainted with MN’s posse of ploppers.

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I believe Carti transferred to the Telegraph as I recognised the consistent batshit level of comments. There they used a name (can't remember what it was) and claimed to be a therapist at the Tavistock?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/10/2024 18:54

UtopiaPlanitia · 02/10/2024 15:34

It’s disgraceful and worrying that so many official regulators have battened down the hatches rather than engage in the scientific method on this issue but this article also shows that more voices are joining the calls for transparency and reevaluation of the standards of care. That’s a hopeful development.

I am more and more convinced that there will have to be serious sanctions for those medical and education professionals who allowed ideology to override good practices in dealing with patients/pupils presenting with ‘gender dysphoria’. I don’t think as a society we can let people in trusted professions away with this behaviour and retain trust in our institutions.

I was reading about the Lucy Letby enquiry and pondering which of the senior trans zealots will be held to account for what's been done to children. I decided that it would likely be senior medics - the GIDs management, endocrinologists and hopefully the Heads of various NHS Trusts. Plus perhaps heads of certain charities, some civil servants who took the Stonewall shilling and did their bidding in defiance of the rules about political impartiality along with professionals who helped to drive a wedge between children and their parents?

Just a thought.

ArabellaScott · 02/10/2024 21:25

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/10/2024 18:54

I was reading about the Lucy Letby enquiry and pondering which of the senior trans zealots will be held to account for what's been done to children. I decided that it would likely be senior medics - the GIDs management, endocrinologists and hopefully the Heads of various NHS Trusts. Plus perhaps heads of certain charities, some civil servants who took the Stonewall shilling and did their bidding in defiance of the rules about political impartiality along with professionals who helped to drive a wedge between children and their parents?

Just a thought.

There was a little discussion of this in the Scottish parliament recently wrt 'gender' care being passed to GPs.

ArabellaScott · 02/10/2024 21:25

I suppose 'culpable' is a word we can expect to hear more and more.

UtopiaPlanitia · 02/10/2024 21:29

ArabellaScott · 02/10/2024 21:25

There was a little discussion of this in the Scottish parliament recently wrt 'gender' care being passed to GPs.

If I remember correctly, the MSP on the committee who is a GP was most definitely against that idea, for many reasons but accountability and responsibility for prescribing was one aspect of his objection, and I can’t say I blame him for being wary.

UtopiaPlanitia · 02/10/2024 21:33

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/10/2024 18:49

I believe Carti transferred to the Telegraph as I recognised the consistent batshit level of comments. There they used a name (can't remember what it was) and claimed to be a therapist at the Tavistock?

Wow, I really hope that claim was just a bogus appeal to authority on their part to win internet arguments.

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