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Germany: Court prohibits online publication from calling a TW a "man"

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GrumpyPanda · 22/08/2024 18:29

Fresh off Twitter, the latest development I the Bavarian women's gym case. There's no dedicated thread on it, so to re-cap, a balding TW named Laura who'd previously courted media attention after joining a women's football team had applied to join an exclusively women's gym, all while promising to only use the communal showers wearing Speedos, honest Miss. Got turned down. Lawyered up and simultaneously complained to Germany's Green Party anti-discrimination ombudsman who promptly suggested the studio pay compensation.

His legal beagles have now achieved a verdict against the right-wing online publication that first broke the story and in doing so, called "Laura" a "man." That, says the court, was inadmissible as he's in possession of a GRC and hence, the publication violated his human dignity as a person ("Persönlichkeitsrecht.") The publication, it says, also overstepped in using "Laura's" female name and initial (never mind he'd previously used the full first name-surname both for newspaper interviews o his football exploits and for a one-star Google review criticizing the gym as transphobic.) Keep in mind this is NOT under the new anti-doxxing law which only comes into force from November. https://www.lto.de/recht/nachrichten/n/lg-frankfurt-203o27524-trans-frau-fitnessstudio-nius-reichelt

A women's organization, Frauenheldinnen, are also close to being sued in the same matter - they're currently crowdfunding on Twitter.

English language recap of the gym case, with slight inaccuracies on the ombudsman aspect: https://reduxx.info/germany-balding-trans-identified-male-now-demanding-e2500-from-womens-gym-after-being-denied-access-to-showers/

LG Frankfurt: NiUS darf trans Frau nicht Mann nennen

Weil NiUS eine trans Frau durchweg als Mann bezeichnete, verlor das Julian-Reichelt-Portal nun im Eilverfahren vor Gericht. Nicht zum ersten Mal.

https://www.lto.de/recht/nachrichten/n/lg-frankfurt-203o27524-trans-frau-fitnessstudio-nius-reichelt

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Omlettes · 22/08/2024 21:13

Infuriating.
As an aside I honestly dont know how the brave reporters at Reduxx can cope, I spend but a minute on that site and I feel like bleaching my soul.
Its like Dantes Inferno.

GrumpyPanda · 22/08/2024 22:51

@brefugee

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ScrollingLeaves · 22/08/2024 22:56

GrumpyPanda · 22/08/2024 18:29

Fresh off Twitter, the latest development I the Bavarian women's gym case. There's no dedicated thread on it, so to re-cap, a balding TW named Laura who'd previously courted media attention after joining a women's football team had applied to join an exclusively women's gym, all while promising to only use the communal showers wearing Speedos, honest Miss. Got turned down. Lawyered up and simultaneously complained to Germany's Green Party anti-discrimination ombudsman who promptly suggested the studio pay compensation.

His legal beagles have now achieved a verdict against the right-wing online publication that first broke the story and in doing so, called "Laura" a "man." That, says the court, was inadmissible as he's in possession of a GRC and hence, the publication violated his human dignity as a person ("Persönlichkeitsrecht.") The publication, it says, also overstepped in using "Laura's" female name and initial (never mind he'd previously used the full first name-surname both for newspaper interviews o his football exploits and for a one-star Google review criticizing the gym as transphobic.) Keep in mind this is NOT under the new anti-doxxing law which only comes into force from November. https://www.lto.de/recht/nachrichten/n/lg-frankfurt-203o27524-trans-frau-fitnessstudio-nius-reichelt

A women's organization, Frauenheldinnen, are also close to being sued in the same matter - they're currently crowdfunding on Twitter.

English language recap of the gym case, with slight inaccuracies on the ombudsman aspect: https://reduxx.info/germany-balding-trans-identified-male-now-demanding-e2500-from-womens-gym-after-being-denied-access-to-showers/

So they would have had to report saying something such as, “A woman wanted to join a gym, the other women members did not want her to, but she begged to be accepted as a member and promised to wear speedos in the shower.”

Rymeswithpunt · 22/08/2024 23:04

Forcing your kinks on unwilling women is classic male power tripping, 100% enabled by the state.

Was ever thus.

Slow hand clap Germany with your legalized sex trafficking.

Garlicfest · 22/08/2024 23:05

“A biologically male 'woman' wanted to join a gym, the other women members did not want 'her' to, but the individual begged to be accepted as a member and promised to keep 'her' penis covered in the shower, where other women would be naked.”

If forced to verbally finagle, verbal finagling is possible for now.

GrumpyPanda · 23/08/2024 00:00

ScrollingLeaves · 22/08/2024 22:56

So they would have had to report saying something such as, “A woman wanted to join a gym, the other women members did not want her to, but she begged to be accepted as a member and promised to wear speedos in the shower.”

Didn't even get that far, the owner turned him down (the gym has a 20% Muslima membership as well!). For which she's now potentially getting sued under anti-discrimination legislation. Policing women's bodies, and all that.

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