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NZ transgender paedophile news article

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FizzyLemons · 13/05/2024 21:26

I so wish they had the comments switched on for this article. Talk about pointing out the absurdity of the situation.

Brief summary : this chap is in prison (male prison, thank god) indefinitely, decides he's trans, is unmanageable with fellow inmates and staff and has just lost his appeal trying to claim was illegal to keep him in solitary confinement.

But the way the article is written - he is only referred to by name in the first part of the article when he identified as a man, then it switches to she/her after he transitions. Whilst showing photos and describing behaviour that are clearly male. I can imagine the majority of the readers going WTF!!

Two points that jumped out at me:

  • they have a whole wing for transgender prisoners? (he wasn't on it though, because they didn't get along...)
  • where did he get his breasts from as he transitioned whilst in prison? Did my taxes pay for that? Hopefully they are imaginary.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime/maxien-stevens-transgender-inmate-who-claimed-she-was-punished-for-prisoner-relationships-loses-appeal/ROGI6BSLRBFGNBDFDKBH67C5K4/

Paedophile Maxien Stevens, previously known as Michael Lesley Stevens before transitioning to a woman, was sentenced to preventive detention in 2016. Photo / Police

'Singled out': Transgender paedophile says prison punished her for inmate relationships

Officials considered her a troublesome inmate. But it wasn't retribution, they insisted.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime/maxien-stevens-transgender-inmate-who-claimed-she-was-punished-for-prisoner-relationships-loses-appeal/ROGI6BSLRBFGNBDFDKBH67C5K4

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Greengablesfables · 13/05/2024 22:16

Usual crap. Violent male paedophile decides he wants to ‘be a woman’ whilst in prison. Authorities say ok, that’s totally fine. Despite the fact you are an aggressive paedophile, we will all pretend you’re a woman too. That’s ok. Whatever you like.

‘…transgender inmate who claimed she was punished for prisoner relationships, loses appeal’

The whole pronoun thing is really starting to get on my nerves. It’s so wrong. Particularly in cases like this.

GourmetLettuceMix · 14/05/2024 07:20

He sounds like an absolute nightmare. I really wish the NZH had not indulged him in his fantasies by continuously referring to him as "her".

ArabellaScott · 14/05/2024 07:31

Infuriating but a useful illustration of some if the issues involved, including pronoun use.

ArabellaScott · 14/05/2024 07:34

this is the first time I've ever read about the risks presented to other male prisoners from a transwoman:

'Ms Stevens frequently exhibited overly sexualised behaviour towards other prisoners, including asking them to touch her breasts and other parts of her body in a sexual manner,” Court of Appeal justices Murray Gilbert, Christian Whata and Peter Churchman noted in their 45-page judgment released last week.

“She also pursued romantic relationships with younger or vulnerable prisoners. [Prison] staff considered, based on their observations, that these relationships were not reciprocated, and they were concerned about the negative impact on the mental wellbeing of the young prisoners Ms Stevens fixated on. The issue was raised with Ms Stevens on numerous occasions, but her behaviour continued to escalate.”'

mrshoho · 14/05/2024 07:48

Well done, big hand clap to the Law makers who are responsible for this nonsense. Is it getting through yet that insisting men who say they are women is lies and wide open to exploitation at every turn? What a complete waste of time and money across the globe in pandering to this ideology. I still find it hard to believe why so many supposedly intelligent people ever thought it a workable idea?

FizzyLemons · 14/05/2024 20:32

ArabellaScott · 14/05/2024 07:31

Infuriating but a useful illustration of some if the issues involved, including pronoun use.

I agree. When I was beginning my peaking journey, there was a headline to the effect of 'Woman convicted of raping man' and I thought 'WTF, you need a penis to rape'. Which obviously this 'woman' had. But it was another thing to make me stop and think and look into this further.

This article was the top headline for a short time, so hopefully many people read it and perhaps some of them had a WTF moment.

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NPET · 14/09/2024 18:49

FizzyLemons · 14/05/2024 20:32

I agree. When I was beginning my peaking journey, there was a headline to the effect of 'Woman convicted of raping man' and I thought 'WTF, you need a penis to rape'. Which obviously this 'woman' had. But it was another thing to make me stop and think and look into this further.

This article was the top headline for a short time, so hopefully many people read it and perhaps some of them had a WTF moment.

"WTF you need a penis to rape"
👍👍👍
If only more people realised this.

(I'm not, btw, claiming that women can't "sexually assault" someone.)

Valeriekat · 14/09/2024 19:35

GourmetLettuceMix · 14/05/2024 07:20

He sounds like an absolute nightmare. I really wish the NZH had not indulged him in his fantasies by continuously referring to him as "her".

The NZ Herald is utterly captured.

TempestTost · 14/09/2024 20:25

NPET · 14/09/2024 18:49

"WTF you need a penis to rape"
👍👍👍
If only more people realised this.

(I'm not, btw, claiming that women can't "sexually assault" someone.)

This is true in the UK, but not necessarily everywhere, so it can depend on where the news is coming from.

NPET · 14/09/2024 23:43

TempestTost · 14/09/2024 20:25

This is true in the UK, but not necessarily everywhere, so it can depend on where the news is coming from.

A bit confused. Are you saying that penises in some countries are different?

TempestTost · 14/09/2024 23:46

NPET · 14/09/2024 23:43

A bit confused. Are you saying that penises in some countries are different?

No, the law is framed differently.

RubyTrees · 15/09/2024 12:04

NPET · 14/09/2024 23:43

A bit confused. Are you saying that penises in some countries are different?

Here’s the UK definition:
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/rape-and-sexual-offences-chapter-7-key-legislation-and-offences

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