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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
OP posts:
howdoesatoastermaketoast · 30/12/2023 13:56

women's lives really don't matter a jot do they

PorcelinaV · 30/12/2023 14:03

I don't know what the surgery requirement actually involves.

Not that it could make things appropriate or fair or safe, whatever it is. Unless maybe they have to have their arms removed.

OP posts:
Redcar78 · 30/12/2023 14:15

I wonder how many women will be seriously injured before this is reversed because that's what will have to happen eventually 🤷‍♀️

NoBinturongsHereMate · 30/12/2023 14:23

Interesting that the MtoF requirement is 'has completed gender reassignment surgery' and the FtoM is 'has had gender reassignment surgery'.

But both (particularly the latter) suggest the rules were written by someone who hasn't the first fucking idea what they are talking about.

At least in amateur boxing I think there's mandatory head protection and more rules about KOs, so if we're lucky it will be reconsidered after 'only' some serious injuries rather than deaths.

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 30/12/2023 14:32

Unbelievable. There must be a journalist, an ex boxer who will investigate the individual/s responsible for this decision.

When the inevitable happens I want to know who they are so I can widely shout their name and drum up enough money to sue the stupidity out of all NGBs on this.

Enough... this has to be the point where every woman, interested or not in any sport, says enough.

Off to suggest to Sharron Davies that this is one she can get behind
..

ArabellaScott · 30/12/2023 14:33

Mad. Terrifying and mad.

ArabellaScott · 30/12/2023 14:35

What I also found horrifying was reading recently about a woman who had absolutely no warning prior to fighting that her opponent was male.

Froodwithatowel · 30/12/2023 14:39

What's a few subhuman silly eggshell skulls smashed in the name of men getting to do whatever the fuck they want without hearing the word 'no'?

Sexist bastards.

ErrolTheRednosedDragon · 30/12/2023 14:40

Since boxing’s IF has not determined transgender eligibility and boxing is considered a combat sport, USA Boxing’s overriding objective is the safety of all boxers and fair competition between all boxers."

Well they've massively failed in their objectives then.
Ffs, why, when other sports are beginning to get back to seeing sense, is boxing of all things still taking this dangerous line?

LoveParrot19 · 30/12/2023 14:52

It doesn't matter if there's been gender reassignment or hormone therapy or whatever.. a person who is born a male is going to have a physical advantage over a female.
FFS people, there are bigger problems at hand..hmm I don't know, maybe the fact that China is going to attempt to destroy us soon.

SidewaysOtter · 30/12/2023 14:55

Biological men punching biological women. What could possibly go wrong?

I hope they’ve got some bloody good lawyers for the inevitable lawsuit when a woman is seriously hurt.

ArabellaScott · 30/12/2023 15:23

LoveParrot19 · 30/12/2023 14:52

It doesn't matter if there's been gender reassignment or hormone therapy or whatever.. a person who is born a male is going to have a physical advantage over a female.
FFS people, there are bigger problems at hand..hmm I don't know, maybe the fact that China is going to attempt to destroy us soon.

Well, that post took an unexpected turn.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 30/12/2023 15:23

WTF?! This is insane.

A woman will die in the ring and these fucking idiots will cheer. It's monstrous.

How have USA Boxing got insurance to go ahead with this? I don't understand.

WickedSerious · 30/12/2023 15:35

ArabellaScott · 30/12/2023 15:23

Well, that post took an unexpected turn.

I was expecting something about climate change.

KohlaParasaurus · 30/12/2023 15:45

They know that there are plenty of people who will gladly pay for the opportunity to see a woman being battered by a man in a public arena, and it's all about the money. Humans are shit sometimes.

ArabellaScott · 30/12/2023 16:02

Less like boxing more like trans Roulette.

Truthlikeness · 30/12/2023 16:08

absolutely mind-boggling

ErrolTheRednosedDragon · 30/12/2023 16:12

LoveParrot19 · 30/12/2023 14:52

It doesn't matter if there's been gender reassignment or hormone therapy or whatever.. a person who is born a male is going to have a physical advantage over a female.
FFS people, there are bigger problems at hand..hmm I don't know, maybe the fact that China is going to attempt to destroy us soon.

So they should cut this crap and stick to the simple rules of single sex sport, yes?

JanesLittleGirl · 30/12/2023 16:53

Has anybody asked Steve Bunce for his opinion? I suspect that it would be golden.

Fenlandia · 30/12/2023 18:47

Yet another sport where women had made huge strides recently, now sent back to the stone age. Who the hell would want to watch a magnificent boxer like Katie Taylor or prime Nicola Adams being pummelled by some bloke with ladyfeelz? Sarah Jane Baker must be planning their new sporting career as we speak.

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 30/12/2023 20:13

KohlaParasaurus · 30/12/2023 15:45

They know that there are plenty of people who will gladly pay for the opportunity to see a woman being battered by a man in a public arena, and it's all about the money. Humans are shit sometimes.

Its either this, or there are people within the sport who want womens boxing to end.

Itll either be a large audience, or because safety cannot be guaranteed, the matches abandoned.

BlessedKali · 30/12/2023 20:17

ArabellaScott · 30/12/2023 15:23

Well, that post took an unexpected turn.

No Way Wtf GIF by Harlem

my face

Jungleballs · 30/12/2023 20:25

Rules don’t even make sense and are probably just being used as a proxy for commitment. A man having completed surgery doesn’t have more impact on his upper body strength than hormone suppression.

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 30/12/2023 20:26

SidewaysOtter · 30/12/2023 14:55

Biological men punching biological women. What could possibly go wrong?

I hope they’ve got some bloody good lawyers for the inevitable lawsuit when a woman is seriously hurt.

well what's going to happen immediately is a lot less mums and dads saying yes when their daughter wants to go to a boxing class.

I wonder why some men might want that.

Truthlikeness · 30/12/2023 20:46

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 30/12/2023 20:26

well what's going to happen immediately is a lot less mums and dads saying yes when their daughter wants to go to a boxing class.

I wonder why some men might want that.

You do have to start wondering whether its a feature, not a bug...

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