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Prof Jo Phoenix vs The OU - Employment Tribunal Thread 7

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ickky · 18/10/2023 10:27

Started on 2nd October at Watford Employment Tribunal (Radius House, 51 Clarendon Rd, Watford WD17 1HP 01923 281750)

You may attend in person or remote viewing has been quite limited but you can request log in details from

Email
[email protected]

Header should read

URGENT CURRENT CASE - Public Access Request - J Phoenix - The Open University - 3322700/2021

Ask for access link and pin and please give your name and address in the email as they check when you connect to the tribunal.

The clerk will ask you (in a private remote room) to put your camera on to verify, this involves looking at you, but no ID is needed. You may turn off your camera after this pointless and unnecessary process.

Abbreviations

JP - Jo Phoenix, Claimant (C)
OU - The Open University, Respondent (R)
J - Regional Employment Judge Young
P - Panel or panel member
BC - Ben Cooper KC, Counsel for C
JM - Jane Mulcahy KC, Counsel for R
OU Departments & Networks:
HWSRA - Health & Wellbeing Strategic Research Area
FASS - Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
SPC - Dept of Social Policy & Criminology
KMi - Knowledge Media Institute
GCRN - Gender Critical Research Network

OU witnesses

PB - Dr Paraskevi Boukli, Former Senior Lecturer Criminology, Deputy Head SPC 2021-22
IF - Prof Ian Fribbance Dean of FASS
MW - Prof Marcia Wilson, Dean EDI, 2020-23
CM - Caragh Molloy, Group People Director 2019-23
LD - Dr Leigh Downes, Senior Lecturer in Criminology (in SPC), Academic Lead for EDI FASS 2019-21
PK - Peter Keogh, Professor Health & Society, Member RSSH
CW - Dr Christopher Williams, Senior Lecturer History
KS - Kevin Shakesheff. PVC for Research and Innovation
NatS - Natalie Starkey, Outreach & Public Engagement Officer Sch Physical Sciences, 2019-22
HBC - Helen Bowes-Catton, Lecturer Social Research Methods
JD - John Domingue, Prof of Computing Science, Director KMi, 2015-22
LW - Louise Westmarland, Prof of Criminology, Co-Deputy Head SPC, 2018-21, Current Head SPC
RH - Richard Holliman, Prof Engaged Research, Head School Environment, Earth & Ecosystem Sciences, 2019-22. Member of Investigation Panel investigating the C’s grievance
DD - Dr Deborah Drake, Senior Lecturer Criminology, Head of SPC 2018-21😇
CT - Catherine Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
SD - Shaun Daley, Head OU’s Resourcing Hub. Head Strategic Resources, Co-Chair OU’s LGBT+ Staff Network
NS - Nicola Snarey, Assoc Lecturer Eng Language
CT - Cath Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
SJ - Samantha Jacobson, Employee Relations Case Manager

Witness for JP:

SE - Professor Sarah Earle, Head of the HWSRA

Tribunal Tweets - https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets

TT coverage so far - https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/professor-jo-phoenix-v-the-open-university

Prof Jo Phoenix Witness Statement (scroll to bottom of page and download)

https://jophoenix.substack.com/p/phoenix-v-open-university?sd=pf

Thread 1 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4905118-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-2nd-october-whispers-ben-cooper?page=1

Thread 2 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4913946-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-2?page=1

Thread 3 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4917480-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-3

Thread 4 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4918479-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-4

Thread 5 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4919223-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-5

Thread 6 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4921308-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-6

https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/professor-jo-phoenix-v-the-open-university

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Sisterpita · 18/10/2023 10:39

Who is up next?

Chrysanthemum5 · 18/10/2023 10:39

J follows up with question about freedom of speech and CT witters on about how people can say things but need to be aware of context and consequences

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/10/2023 10:39

Deb drake

ickky · 18/10/2023 10:39

Next witness

DD - Dr Deborah Drake, Senior Lecturer Criminology, Head of SPC 2018-21😇

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Chrysanthemum5 · 18/10/2023 10:39

Hello Dr Drake we've been expecting you

AwomanfromNorthampton · 18/10/2023 10:40

@ickky thank you, and bravo on the emoji next to DD in the summary above!

Sisterpita · 18/10/2023 10:41

🍿

ickky · 18/10/2023 10:41

It really is a shower of shit the way this Tribunal is being run. The witness mic is off.

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Melissamelisante · 18/10/2023 10:41

Thank you Ikky for the new thread.

LarkLane · 18/10/2023 10:41

AwomanfromNorthampton · 18/10/2023 10:40

@ickky thank you, and bravo on the emoji next to DD in the summary above!

Ha ha, I've just spotted it!

RocketPanda · 18/10/2023 10:41

Do do d-do do do do do d-do

GailBlancheViola · 18/10/2023 10:41

Helleofabore · 18/10/2023 10:39

thanks ick!

Seriously she is saying people should expect 'pushback' but cannot see that women are allowed to without being labelled as a hate group.

That blew my mind - I/We the great GI persons can disagree and push back but those on the GC side cannot, that's hateful and must be punished and silenced - do these people realise just what they are saying?

PoshCoffee · 18/10/2023 10:41

FFS Justin, let me in!

Chrysanthemum5 · 18/10/2023 10:41

Make all the minor changes you want to Dr Drake they won't stop what's about to happen

AlisonDonut · 18/10/2023 10:43

It really is Four Legs Good Two Legs Bad.

CriticalCondition · 18/10/2023 10:43

DD gives BC a cheery but tense 'Morning!'

RoyalCorgi · 18/10/2023 10:43

That was just in case anyone needed a musical accompaniment as they read the cross-examination.

JoIsBraverThanIAm · 18/10/2023 10:44

The previous witness appears to be still in the conference and unmuted, what could go wrong?

TrumpetOfTheMatriarchy · 18/10/2023 10:44

RoyalCorgi · 18/10/2023 10:43

L

Brilliant. If only I could see the entrance itself.

CriticalCondition · 18/10/2023 10:45

DD's witness statement is 27 pages long. I'm going to need snacks.

GCITC · 18/10/2023 10:46

Arghhh my Internet has gone down

Emotionalsupportviper · 18/10/2023 10:47

ickky · 18/10/2023 10:39

Next witness

DD - Dr Deborah Drake, Senior Lecturer Criminology, Head of SPC 2018-21😇

LOL!

CriticalCondition · 18/10/2023 10:47

DD speaks very fast.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 18/10/2023 10:48

CriticalCondition · 18/10/2023 10:47

DD speaks very fast.

Nerves??

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