Prof Jo Phoenix vs The OU - Employment Tribunal Thread 7

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Started on 2nd October at Watford Employment Tribunal (Radius House, 51 Clarendon Rd, Watford WD17 1HP 01923 281750)

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URGENT CURRENT CASE - Public Access Request - J Phoenix - The Open University - 3322700/2021

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Abbreviations

JP - Jo Phoenix, Claimant (C)
OU - The Open University, Respondent (R)
J - Regional Employment Judge Young
P - Panel or panel member
BC - Ben Cooper KC, Counsel for C
JM - Jane Mulcahy KC, Counsel for R
OU Departments & Networks:
HWSRA - Health & Wellbeing Strategic Research Area
FASS - Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
SPC - Dept of Social Policy & Criminology
KMi - Knowledge Media Institute
GCRN - Gender Critical Research Network

OU witnesses

PB - Dr Paraskevi Boukli, Former Senior Lecturer Criminology, Deputy Head SPC 2021-22
IF - Prof Ian Fribbance Dean of FASS
MW - Prof Marcia Wilson, Dean EDI, 2020-23
CM - Caragh Molloy, Group People Director 2019-23
LD - Dr Leigh Downes, Senior Lecturer in Criminology (in SPC), Academic Lead for EDI FASS 2019-21
PK - Peter Keogh, Professor Health & Society, Member RSSH
CW - Dr Christopher Williams, Senior Lecturer History
KS - Kevin Shakesheff. PVC for Research and Innovation
NatS - Natalie Starkey, Outreach & Public Engagement Officer Sch Physical Sciences, 2019-22
HBC - Helen Bowes-Catton, Lecturer Social Research Methods
JD - John Domingue, Prof of Computing Science, Director KMi, 2015-22
LW - Louise Westmarland, Prof of Criminology, Co-Deputy Head SPC, 2018-21, Current Head SPC
RH - Richard Holliman, Prof Engaged Research, Head School Environment, Earth & Ecosystem Sciences, 2019-22. Member of Investigation Panel investigating the C’s grievance
DD - Dr Deborah Drake, Senior Lecturer Criminology, Head of SPC 2018-21😇
CT - Catherine Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
SD - Shaun Daley, Head OU’s Resourcing Hub. Head Strategic Resources, Co-Chair OU’s LGBT+ Staff Network
NS - Nicola Snarey, Assoc Lecturer Eng Language
CT - Cath Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
SJ - Samantha Jacobson, Employee Relations Case Manager

Witness for JP:

SE - Professor Sarah Earle, Head of the HWSRA

Tribunal Tweets - https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets

TT coverage so far - https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/professor-jo-phoenix-v-the-open-university

Prof Jo Phoenix Witness Statement (scroll to bottom of page and download)

https://jophoenix.substack.com/p/phoenix-v-open-university?sd=pf

Thread 1 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4905118-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-2nd-october-whispers-ben-cooper?page=1

Thread 2 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4913946-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-2?page=1

Thread 3 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4917480-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-3

Thread 4 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4918479-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-4

Thread 5 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4919223-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-5

Thread 6 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4921308-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-6

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Someone called Jessica let Justin know she would have to leave as her system wasn't working and could she be let back in - but no sign of her now

Those are weasel words aren't they 😂

BC - you signed the open letter and understood it to be asking for removal of platform for GCRN?
CT - yes. But didn't think it would happen.

Thank you @ickky

There’s no hope for this witness as she considers the GCRN is a hate group.

Thank you @ickky

She is all about the POWER isn't she.

CT - I did it to better support our students.

Is this Bingo entry number 1?

I wish someone would ask her how she was supporting GC students

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences- classic abuse language

CT looks very puzzled by the idea that calling for someone to lose university affiliation may result in that happening.

I'm not sure she is following any of this.

Funny how none of these people thought signing the open letter would actually lead to anything. One really wonders why they bothered in the first place.
<insert massive sarcasm emoji here>

So Jo would get support if someone were bigoted against her because she's a lesbian but not for being GC and that is ok according to CT

Ben finished with CT

Judge

Did you consider how the GC Network would continue in the OU?

CT I would prefer that it didn't

Calling back to the chat about Canada, if anyone's interested Canadian BC (and GC) Nurse Amy Hamm's disciplinary hearing continues...? starts...? on Monday. I think 6 pm UK time (although converting time zones isn't my forte). It seems you can watch remotely

https://www.bccnm.ca/Public/complaints/Pages/Notice.aspx?NoticeID=790

I'm not sure I'm going to be able to follow it on line. I don't know if it's going to be tweeted (X'd).

There is a thread, over a year old now.

Sorry for the interruption. Thanks for the new thread and to everyone following and posting.

I'm so glad the Judge ensured that she was still called as a witness.

Me too.

J asks question. CT says she would prefer GCRN didn't continue as part of OU but doesn't really know about academic freedom stuff.

thanks ick!

Seriously she is saying people should expect 'pushback' but cannot see that women are allowed to without being labelled as a hate group.