Prof Jo Phoenix vs The OU - Employment Tribunal Thread 7

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Started on 2nd October at Watford Employment Tribunal (Radius House, 51 Clarendon Rd, Watford WD17 1HP 01923 281750)

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Abbreviations

JP - Jo Phoenix, Claimant (C)
OU - The Open University, Respondent (R)
J - Regional Employment Judge Young
P - Panel or panel member
BC - Ben Cooper KC, Counsel for C
JM - Jane Mulcahy KC, Counsel for R
OU Departments & Networks:
HWSRA - Health & Wellbeing Strategic Research Area
FASS - Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
SPC - Dept of Social Policy & Criminology
KMi - Knowledge Media Institute
GCRN - Gender Critical Research Network

OU witnesses

PB - Dr Paraskevi Boukli, Former Senior Lecturer Criminology, Deputy Head SPC 2021-22
IF - Prof Ian Fribbance Dean of FASS
MW - Prof Marcia Wilson, Dean EDI, 2020-23
CM - Caragh Molloy, Group People Director 2019-23
LD - Dr Leigh Downes, Senior Lecturer in Criminology (in SPC), Academic Lead for EDI FASS 2019-21
PK - Peter Keogh, Professor Health & Society, Member RSSH
CW - Dr Christopher Williams, Senior Lecturer History
KS - Kevin Shakesheff. PVC for Research and Innovation
NatS - Natalie Starkey, Outreach & Public Engagement Officer Sch Physical Sciences, 2019-22
HBC - Helen Bowes-Catton, Lecturer Social Research Methods
JD - John Domingue, Prof of Computing Science, Director KMi, 2015-22
LW - Louise Westmarland, Prof of Criminology, Co-Deputy Head SPC, 2018-21, Current Head SPC
RH - Richard Holliman, Prof Engaged Research, Head School Environment, Earth & Ecosystem Sciences, 2019-22. Member of Investigation Panel investigating the C’s grievance
DD - Dr Deborah Drake, Senior Lecturer Criminology, Head of SPC 2018-21😇
CT - Catherine Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
SD - Shaun Daley, Head OU’s Resourcing Hub. Head Strategic Resources, Co-Chair OU’s LGBT+ Staff Network
NS - Nicola Snarey, Assoc Lecturer Eng Language
CT - Cath Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
SJ - Samantha Jacobson, Employee Relations Case Manager

Witness for JP:

SE - Professor Sarah Earle, Head of the HWSRA

Tribunal Tweets - https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets

TT coverage so far - https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/professor-jo-phoenix-v-the-open-university

Prof Jo Phoenix Witness Statement (scroll to bottom of page and download)

https://jophoenix.substack.com/p/phoenix-v-open-university?sd=pf

Thread 1 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4905118-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-2nd-october-whispers-ben-cooper?page=1

Thread 2 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4913946-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-2?page=1

Thread 3 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4917480-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-3

Thread 4 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4918479-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-4

Thread 5 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4919223-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-5

Thread 6 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4921308-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-6

Thanks @Ereshkigalangcleg

He's read the "body" posts and is worried sick that I'll be waiting for him, draped horrifically seductively over the bins when he gets home. 😂

I'd like to rescue all the poor sane ones and build them a completely different academic institution somewhere where they don't have to live around all this batshit!

But the sheer fact of it existing where it can't be bullied and scolded and controlled and fussed at would be an 'act of hate'.

BC: your email to CW and HBC. You refer to HBC tweets and say you fully endorse them. Do you recall you endorsed them

DD: Don't remember

Well said. I hope they also compare and contrast their 'upset' with 'problematic views' with what happened to that poor girl. And Dolatowski's victim, and White's victim.

But self-reflection doesn't seem to be something they're capable of.

Whereas I feel it should be reclaimed and worn proudly as a description.

So who are the people who supported JP in DD's debt? There hasn't been any evidence of that other than Sarah Earle.

Where a nestful of Attack Wrens will peck you back into reality.

Maybe I'll change my pronouns from bundle/bundle to problematic/problematicer

DD wants to be very clear about the WA groups she was a member of.

Article about the previous VC - is this the one they got sacked?

New phone BINGO

BC c Wapp trying to find out if DD in the Wapp group

BC: Do you still have these messages

DD: I don't know. I don't use Wapp ver much. I delete stuff. I have a new phone

DD- I don't use WA very much. I've had a new phone since then. I don't care about WA and backing up.

I'd be very worried if I stated something categorically and then BC said to me 'let's go back to page 1234' 😂

Horrified? Au contraire

Thank you - I have bookmarked this.

You never know when you may need a Yummy, Tasty Death Star in a hurry.

reads from DD email: it's problematic, scary and interesting that people who signed ST letter have a nb / tw in their dept

If we go by witness reports, it seems everyone who objected to the letter did so because they have a nb/tw in their depth. Is that equally interesting, I wonder?

DD sounds as though she is unable to leave her emotions at home and not bring them to work. So far she has been upset, distressed, exasperated…..

Yes quite an astonishing article

So everyone in the OU has a new phone. No one in the OU moves their messages over. No one in the OU backs stuff up.

Yeye Luisah Teish on rainbow imperialism, the appropriation of Yoruba culture, and tyranny.

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Do you suppose that the OU cares that the appearance of every single member of their staff as unprofessional, prejudiced, with massive memory problems and phone issues, has just devastated their professional reputation?

We could axe all these depts and twits and no one would notice in the real world.

<Hums I've got a little list>

And they all sign things because other people have signed them and they don't think their demands will be met at all so it's not a problem if they ask for research units to lose affiliation