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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The endless contradictions of gender ideology

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Chevronica · 17/10/2023 09:26

I came across this article and it’s a really good list of contradictions within gender ideology. Sharing because, as it says, sometimes pointing out the contradictions can be helpful to open people’s eyes to the absurdity of this ideology (or who knows, maybe could help have a reasoned discussion about it)

https://www.thedistancemag.com/p/the-endless-contradictions-of-gender

The Endless Contradictions of Gender Ideology

The list goes on and on

https://www.thedistancemag.com/p/the-endless-contradictions-of-gender

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Supercat100 · 17/10/2023 09:55

That's excellent. Thanks for posting it.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 17/10/2023 10:15

The magazine covers is a good one (well, they all are - but that particularly amused me).

IcakethereforeIam · 17/10/2023 10:57

I'd like to see any of the tra MPs, of any party, be given the option to pick one of those from that list and explain it. Just one, and they can pick it.

WickedSerious · 17/10/2023 12:23

IcakethereforeIam · 17/10/2023 10:57

I'd like to see any of the tra MPs, of any party, be given the option to pick one of those from that list and explain it. Just one, and they can pick it.

I'll have a shot of tequila every time they say 'nuanced'.

IcakethereforeIam · 17/10/2023 12:29

😀 your poor liver, thoughts and prayers.

ExpectantAsshole · 17/10/2023 18:00

I couldn’t get the article to open. But let me take a guess at some:

Its not a mental illness but if they don’t get the treatment they want right away, they can become suicidal.

Gender is a social construct but they have to change their bodies.
Also, they don’t need to change their bodies but not giving blockers/hormones to children will cause them to be suicidal.

They just want to pee, but if women have a separate space it doesn’t count and women have to let trans women in wherever they are.

I’m sure there’s more.

ExpectantAsshole · 17/10/2023 18:02

In a separate pot in case it gets deleted:

Its not a fetish, but they get “gender euphoria” (aka a boner) when wearing women’s clothes.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 17/10/2023 18:51

I think they missed that last one.

ExpectantAsshole · 17/10/2023 19:01
skirt GIF

Oh I forgot my favourite- a vagina and female biology doesn’t make you a woman, but lipstick and a spinny skirt does.

Chevronica · 17/10/2023 20:00

@ExpectantAsshole you’ve got the gist! They missed the one you mention in your second post though.

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JanesLittleGirl · 17/10/2023 20:47

ExpectantAsshole · 17/10/2023 18:02

In a separate pot in case it gets deleted:

Its not a fetish, but they get “gender euphoria” (aka a boner) when wearing women’s clothes.

But only when passing through Malaga Airport.

Flyhigher · 17/10/2023 21:49

Love this thread it's exactly how I feel.

ArabellaScott · 17/10/2023 22:11

“Cis” people don’t understand what it’s like to be trans.
But trans women understand what it’s like to be a woman.

100% nonsensical.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 17/10/2023 22:42

Yes, it's the movement's inherent contradictions that made me certain it's misguided.

Since we disagree on what a woman is, I don't expect their ideas about womanhood and women's rights/services to be consistent with mine. I do however expect them to be self consistent, and they are not.

My contributions to the list:

We've fundamentally misunderstood what a woman is by believing women are the female of the species.

But also...everything set up based on the assumption that women are female is obviously there for the new type of woman despite being set up without any reference to that group of people. It's not there for female people despite being literally designed for that group of people.

Having a female body isn't part of being a woman.

But also...trans women can give intimate care to people with female bodies because they are women.

menopausalmare · 17/10/2023 22:48

There's some absolute corkers in that article and well-worthy of a t-shirt.

NotBadConsidering · 18/10/2023 08:46

I’ll add another:

”Of course children aren’t having surgery, because they’re not old enough to make decisions about permanently changing their bodies with surgery.”

“Of course children can have puberty blockers, because they’re old enough to make decisions about permanently changing their bodies with hormones.”

LoobiJee · 18/10/2023 09:35

The one that jumped out at me from the article was the one that starts with “if the perpetrator of a crime….”.

I was going to quote it, but it occurred to me that the quote might get my post deleted.

SinnerBoy · 18/10/2023 09:59

This one stood out for me:

Trans people are a very tiny minority and so they must be listened to.

Detransitioners are a very tiny minority and so they must not be listened to.

OldCrone · 18/10/2023 11:27

Gender identity is fixed from birth and children know who they are and know their gender identity from a young age.

Children need puberty blockers to give them time to decide about their gender identity.

OldCrone · 18/10/2023 11:28

Gender identity is fixed from birth and children know who they are and know their gender identity from a young age.

Detransitioners don't exist - they were never really trans. They were mistaken.

SinnerBoy · 18/10/2023 19:25

Down the Memory Hole with them...

ampletime · 02/11/2023 17:10

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ampletime · 02/11/2023 17:18

Really sad that mumsnet moderators deleted my message, there was nothing wrong with what I said. The gender ideology movement is predatory and it is child grooming.
Platforms that refuse to acknowledge other opinions and go as far as deleting them are complicit with such grooming

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