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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
SamW98 · 06/09/2023 10:54

Can’t edit title but obviously mean inmate

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RealityFan · 06/09/2023 11:00

All the trans allies go "self ID is happening seamlessly and trouble free in places like Ireland, Malta, Argentina, Canada"

Well, we know, don't we? Nothing of the sort. Issues such as the one in this thread are likely endemic in women's jails in those countries. We just don't hear about them, because the fear of their media in reporting, or even the total ease and capitulation to misgendering as an offence, means that these crimes aren't logged as male on female.

Long may UK remain as TERF Island, so the most vunerable women such as those in prison aren't sold out by the state and media.

caramac04 · 06/09/2023 11:01

Another example of why people with penises (men) should not be housed in women’s prisons or be sharing spaces such as toilets and changing rooms.
If such people don’t want to be in a men’s prison then they shouldn’t break the law.

Myalternate · 06/09/2023 11:13

The additional article about yet another transgender person and their transgendered partner also housed in the same facility is horrific!

RealityFan · 06/09/2023 11:29

As the authorities make these decisions, I wonder if for even a moment they have a WTF?! moment, where they think the worst kind of offender, a rapist, child sex culprit, their own family, this purported "woman" is really a man, certainly nigh on 100% of perps in this situation are men, and should I really be sending this man into a women's jail?

I mean, their Groupthink training would then kick in as the mantra TWAW reverts them to type. But in that split second of reality, how do they feel?

And do they ever wake up at night with another random moment of clarity, and sweat just a little that they've placed a sexually violent CSA offender, guilty of incest, in with other women?

Once this glitch in the Enlightenment is sorted, how are they gonna reconcile this to us all?

I suspect it'll be "I was just following orders".

Froodwithatowel · 06/09/2023 13:33

When a T+ political activist says it's all fine and there are no issues, what they mean is that nothing has happened that bothers the male people with T+ identities who are involved, or their supporters.

It's open acknowledgement now that other humans, particularly the womb carrying/ovarian steering/support human things, are acceptable collateral damage to the male person's fulfillment. It's coming up more and more. The quiet bit's been getting louder for years and now it's just right out there in the open on multiple threads.

Boiledbeetle · 06/09/2023 13:50

???? A transgender female pedophile who filmed her seven year-old daughter being sexually abused for horrific porn videos is being housed in a New Jersey women's prison despite still having a penis. ????

so,

A pedophile who filmed his 7 year old daughter being sexually abused for horrific porn videos is being housed in a women's prison despite being a man.

And we are supposed to be OK with this because he suddenly has lady feels.

Fuck that shit.

SamW98 · 06/09/2023 15:15

Jesus Christ. No matter how right on and inclusive and be kind someone claims to be, how the actual fuck can anyone making this decision think it’s the right one? So this vile abusive pedophile with a penis wears a dress and it’s absolutely fine for them to be housed with vulnerable women, a high % of whom have probably been abused at some point in their troubled lives?

Literally can not get my head around ANYONE thinking this is ok

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GailBlancheViola · 06/09/2023 17:34

Here's another to add to the pile of It never happens.

How many women and girls would like to share toilets, changing rooms, hospital wards, etc., with this individual?

And for the hard of thinking who will say Not all TW are like that indeed they are not but how do you tell the difference? If one is allowed in they are all allowed in and that includes this person.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12486943/Sex-offender-identifies-woman-groped-prison-officers.html

Sex offender who identifies as a woman groped prison officers in cell

Katana Paris, 27, who was part way through a three-year sentence at the time for attacking a nurse, assaulted the male and female staff members at HMP Forest Bank in Manchester last year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12486943/Sex-offender-identifies-woman-groped-prison-officers.html

Froodwithatowel · 06/09/2023 17:36

Literally can not get my head around ANYONE thinking this is ok

Me either. Lundy Bancroft could write an entire series on the dysfunction involved in all this.

TheFutureMrsWolowitz · 06/09/2023 17:50

But this never happens. And everyone on this thread is just a bigot for suggesting it does. or else warning it does. Or even just pointing it out that it does.

Wrong think- all of us you.

Fruitynutcase · 06/09/2023 17:51

If you have a penis you serve your time in a male prison . End of .

PurpleBugz · 06/09/2023 18:08

"And for the hard of thinking who will say Not all TW are like that indeed they are not but how do you tell the difference? If one is allowed in they are all allowed in and that includes this person."

I think we should treat it the same as not all men are like this. That doesn't mean we let men into women's prisons or other spaces. Think of DV shelters if not all men abuse why do we have them? Surely if most would never harm a partner then we can get rid of the DV shelters. That's how this thinking would see it play out. But that's not right is it and currently we all know this (although I worry that in years to come this argument against DV shelters could well happen with the trend against women/support humans/second class citizens in favour of men). It's about protecting the vulnerable (women in prison in his case) from the few (violent/sex offended TW) who do pose a risk not saying all TW are a risk

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/09/2023 18:10

The evidence about all this stacks up daily. At what stage does this torrent get noticed by those with the power to change things? Or does it merely highlight how women are repeatedly used to enable male supremacy everywhere?

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 06/09/2023 18:12

RealityFan · 06/09/2023 11:00

All the trans allies go "self ID is happening seamlessly and trouble free in places like Ireland, Malta, Argentina, Canada"

Well, we know, don't we? Nothing of the sort. Issues such as the one in this thread are likely endemic in women's jails in those countries. We just don't hear about them, because the fear of their media in reporting, or even the total ease and capitulation to misgendering as an offence, means that these crimes aren't logged as male on female.

Long may UK remain as TERF Island, so the most vunerable women such as those in prison aren't sold out by the state and media.

Well, quite. Being able to count the assaults commited by men put into women's prisons really is the lowest of astoundingly low bars - but even clearing that is impossible.

SamW98 · 06/09/2023 18:51

GailBlancheViola · 06/09/2023 17:34

Here's another to add to the pile of It never happens.

How many women and girls would like to share toilets, changing rooms, hospital wards, etc., with this individual?

And for the hard of thinking who will say Not all TW are like that indeed they are not but how do you tell the difference? If one is allowed in they are all allowed in and that includes this person.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12486943/Sex-offender-identifies-woman-groped-prison-officers.html

Yep we just can’t tell by looking can we according to some in here.

And 87 previous yet still gets to decide it’s a woman and called she.

Thankfully now where they belong - banged up with other owners of a penis.

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HereForTheFreeLunch · 06/09/2023 18:52

Wtf indeed

GailBlancheViola · 06/09/2023 19:14

Thankfully now where they belong - banged up with other owners of a penis.

Yet still managed to assault a woman.

Toseland · 06/09/2023 19:17

As the authorities make these decisions, I wonder if for even a moment they have a WTF?! moment
I think some men in control of the decisions are all for it, it benefits them in some way and some think it's funny.

Dear god what have we come to?

Whatwouldscullydo · 07/09/2023 07:29

If only as much money was spent on education, rehabilitation, health care, hygiene products etc fir actual women in prison who truly are the one of the most oppressed demographics, as is spent on dealing with this shit.

How about taking that time and money on training that tells you to allow women to be assisted and raped because feelings inside a males head are more important, and I dunno, buying some books? Bringing in a tutor? You could scrap the plan B and condom fund then too. Saves even more money that can then be used to help the women.

HereForTheFreeLunch · 09/09/2023 00:00

If only as much money was spent on education, rehabilitation, health care, hygiene products etc fir actual women in prison who truly are the one of the most oppressed demographics, as is spent on dealing with this shit.

Tells you well and truly where we are in the pecking order. The worst of the worst of men are pandered to. The most perfect of women fall short and just receive unwarranted criticism.

Froodwithatowel · 09/09/2023 10:06

Toseland · 06/09/2023 19:17

As the authorities make these decisions, I wonder if for even a moment they have a WTF?! moment
I think some men in control of the decisions are all for it, it benefits them in some way and some think it's funny.

Dear god what have we come to?

This. When women's bodies are seen as an entitlement some men can claim.

And the damage to the women's bodies, their lack of consent? Well we can't try to limit or manage that, can we, because it would mean presenting boundaries to men who have jumped all the hoops and had such a tough time and want their access to those bodies. To use as props and resources in their prison experience.

You cannot engage in this batshit unless you fundamentally believe that women are less human and real than men, and that men are more valuable and have a born entitlement to use female bodies to meet their needs. Which makes an absolute arse out of trying to claim at the same time any belief that the man involved is at any time one of the group you see as subhuman and a walking male sex therapy aid.

ANewCreation · 09/09/2023 13:25

When a T+ political activist says it's all fine and there are no issues, what they mean is that nothing has happened that bothers the male people with T+ identities who are involved, or their supporters.

Very perspicacious of you, Frood

Evieanne · 09/09/2023 13:52

Why do the west allow this? It’s their own fault for being so tolerant about everything and not using common sense. How can someone sex change it’s so ridiculous. When they dig your body after death you’ll be proven to be what you really are. There’s a reason lots of cultures don’t like this and we can’t all be trans phobic

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