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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What's this that's never happening in Boston, Mass.

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IcakethereforeIam · 24/06/2023 10:37

Something happened and someone's lying about it. Or at least is sorely mistaken. The twitter thread is a ride, so many reactions. It's clear that someone, sadly, died and that four young children were present, although they seem not to have been directly involved, thankfully.

https://twitter.com/DoctorTurtleboy/status/1672277889960538113?s=20

What's this that's never happening in Boston, Mass.
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HereForTheFreeLunch · 24/06/2023 11:47

Nah, this never happens. It's just all a moral panic.

FedgeHund · 24/06/2023 11:57

Th fire fighter is likely going to be labelled a far right Nazi, they are digging on him and scrubbing anything in the people in the apartment.

IcakethereforeIam · 24/06/2023 12:28

*reactions➡redactions.

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RealityFan · 24/06/2023 13:29

I bet the directive to call transwomen women and call anyone non-progessive as guilty of a hate crime made it all the way up the police ranks but missed the fire service.

Cue total retraction from this fire officer in "3...2...1..." as he says the house was a clean, risk free environment.

WhereYouLeftIt · 24/06/2023 13:37

From https://bpdnews.com/news/2023/6/22/update-to-death-investigation-at-381-old-colony-avenue-south-boston, 'The Official Website of the Boston Police Department'.

"There were four children on site who all had a parent present in the residence. The parents and the officers who responded felt it was best for the children to stay in another room with one of the parents and took steps to avoid having the children see the deceased."

And from https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/4-kids-found-in-unsanitary-conditions-in-south-boston-apartment-authorities-say/3072622/

"Six adults who appeared to be men were in the apartment, fire officials said."

Parents, plural, all men, so fathers rather than mothers. Four children, from at least two families, aged from 5 to 10, apparently taken by their dads to a sex party.

From https://www.bostonherald.com/2023/06/23/boston-fire-union-blasts-mayor-wus-version-of-southie-od-den-call/

"The Fire Department reported finding the apartment “in extreme unsanitary conditions.” Firefighters found four children, ages 5-10, “in the back bedroom being hidden by an adult male from first responders.”
Further, the report states that the adults they encountered were uncooperative, and did not provide helpful information."

Which contrast somewhat with the police's "The adults on scene ... were fully cooperative with the Boston Police Officers who responded".

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that those children require protection from their dads. And that the police are doing backflips to the sacred caste and possibly averting their eyes as no arrests have yet been made.

Update to Death Investigation at 381 Old Colony Avenue, South Boston — bpdnews.com

Boston Police were called to 381 Old Colony Avenue in South Boston at 11:11 am on Saturday 06.17.23 to investigate a call for an unconscious person. Boston Fire and EMS were on scene assisting the individual. At 11:41am Boston EMS pronounced the p...

https://bpdnews.com/news/2023/6/22/update-to-death-investigation-at-381-old-colony-avenue-south-boston

Myalternate · 24/06/2023 13:40

As the BFD appear to have been there before the BPD arrived, I’m inclined to accept their written report as being reflective of the situation as they found it to be.
I doubt BPD are any more trustworthy than the MET POLICE.

I’ve decided if I ever find myself in need of 999 I’ll ask for the Fire Service.
(Only half said in jest)

Florissante · 24/06/2023 14:00

Either it never happened or Hernandez is a bigot. And if it did happen, it wasn't that bad and it's Hernandez's fault.

RealityFan · 24/06/2023 14:02

WhereYouLeftIt · 24/06/2023 13:37

From https://bpdnews.com/news/2023/6/22/update-to-death-investigation-at-381-old-colony-avenue-south-boston, 'The Official Website of the Boston Police Department'.

"There were four children on site who all had a parent present in the residence. The parents and the officers who responded felt it was best for the children to stay in another room with one of the parents and took steps to avoid having the children see the deceased."

And from https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/4-kids-found-in-unsanitary-conditions-in-south-boston-apartment-authorities-say/3072622/

"Six adults who appeared to be men were in the apartment, fire officials said."

Parents, plural, all men, so fathers rather than mothers. Four children, from at least two families, aged from 5 to 10, apparently taken by their dads to a sex party.

From https://www.bostonherald.com/2023/06/23/boston-fire-union-blasts-mayor-wus-version-of-southie-od-den-call/

"The Fire Department reported finding the apartment “in extreme unsanitary conditions.” Firefighters found four children, ages 5-10, “in the back bedroom being hidden by an adult male from first responders.”
Further, the report states that the adults they encountered were uncooperative, and did not provide helpful information."

Which contrast somewhat with the police's "The adults on scene ... were fully cooperative with the Boston Police Officers who responded".

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that those children require protection from their dads. And that the police are doing backflips to the sacred caste and possibly averting their eyes as no arrests have yet been made.

Hey, all these dads need to do on hearing that our Education Secretary Gillian Keegan is fine for kids to have to be addressed in school as their new gender if their dads are cool with that, is come with their kids to the UK. Some parties on the side is the least they can expect or deserve.

AlisonDonut · 24/06/2023 14:03

Does anyone remember that gunperson who was dressed in black that gunned down people I think in San Francisco...as the facts came out, it turned out it was a trans person and they wiped every report over the next 12 hours so by the time morning came over here, the whole thing had disappeared. I remember seeing pages disappear before my eyes.

About 3-4 years ago.

Florissante · 24/06/2023 14:06

I particularly like the line "Six adults who appeared to be men were in the apartment, fire officials said." Appear? Really? The BPD can't determine their sex?

RealityFan · 24/06/2023 14:16

Florissante · 24/06/2023 14:06

I particularly like the line "Six adults who appeared to be men were in the apartment, fire officials said." Appear? Really? The BPD can't determine their sex?

Don't they mean "appeared to be non-women"?

IcakethereforeIam · 24/06/2023 14:32

There's this with a brief interview with a woman (an actual woman) who claims to be the mother of two of the sprogs. It says it's 'her' apartment, but that 'her' might be a tw, although she gives the impression that she was present at the incident.

It's possible if the FD arrived first the adults were being obstructive but had calmed down (and run round with a duster and had a vac) by the time the PD showed up.

I'm glad that Hernandez's colleagues are unequivocal in supporting him. They seem to want to move on and leave the shitshow to the Police.

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/mom-of-2-kids-taken-from-south-boston-apartment-speaks-as-police-fire-officials-give-conflicting-details/3075249/

Mom of 2 kids taken from South Boston apartment speaks as police, fire officials give conflicting details

The mother of two children removed from a South Boston apartment fire officials called “unsanitary” during a death investigation spoke with NBC10 Boston Friday as authorities remained tight-lipped about the specific details of the case. The incident ha...

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/mom-of-2-kids-taken-from-south-boston-apartment-speaks-as-police-fire-officials-give-conflicting-details/3075249

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RealityFan · 24/06/2023 14:40

I think we're seeing the butting up of the manicured messaging politically correct unreal world of modern day policing against the straight speaking, "say it as we see it", reality based world of the fire service.

I know who I'd rather share some cans of Bud Light with.

IcakethereforeIam · 24/06/2023 14:43

I believe FD are often trained as paramedics, so pretty important that they recognise the sex of the person they're working on.

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BluebellsareBlue · 24/06/2023 14:43

I saw a press conference and they are saying men who were cross dressing and children, 4, 10 and under, witness to sex toys and drug paraphernalia etc.

RealityFan · 24/06/2023 14:52

BluebellsareBlue · 24/06/2023 14:43

I saw a press conference and they are saying men who were cross dressing and children, 4, 10 and under, witness to sex toys and drug paraphernalia etc.

Drug Queen Story Hour?

pickledandpuzzled · 24/06/2023 14:56

It never ends. Just when you think unscaleable peaks have been reached, something else really unlikely and ridiculous sounding happens.

GreenWhiteViolet · 24/06/2023 14:59

Daily Mail has a more honest article:

ThisIsACoolUserName · 24/06/2023 15:20

Quote from the Daily Mail article: "A transgender black woman was pronounced dead at the scene, according to a police report"

What a confusing description. No idea if the person is a man or woman.

ThisIsACoolUserName · 24/06/2023 15:22

Sorry, scrap my above comment. I hadn't realised 'transwoman' and 'transgender woman' are the same thing.

So it was a man.

GreenWhiteViolet · 24/06/2023 15:29

It was a man, although later in the article the writer refers to the dead person as a woman. Several times.

"It is not currently known what caused the woman's death."

I can't tell whether the paper is bound by some kind of media guidelines, or is being deliberately confusing.

"They reportedly found six adults who appeared to be men dressed as women inside"

"Flaherty told the Herald the woman found on the floor had died 'from an apparent overdose' and that 'a man wearing a wig claiming to be the father' of the kids was found in a back bedroom."

So if they're alive they can be called men, but the one who died is a woman?

pickledandpuzzled · 24/06/2023 15:58

Maybe it's apparent that the live guys are 'not true trans' but high agp blokes.

The dead person has potential to be a dear sweet victimised trans woman of the kind we are all supposed to protect.

mazdazami · 24/06/2023 16:05

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TheBiologyStupid · 24/06/2023 16:05

What a total shitshow. Good for the fire department to report it as it was - if they hadn't attended the scene I wonder what if anything we would know about this case?