Is the Trans shooter in Nashville Male or Female?

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The murderer who came in and killed 3 children and 3 adults is trans and called Audrey, I am confused as to their biological sex.

I think the confusion about Drake's gender mainly stemmed from the initial police statement that the killer was 'female'. It only emerged later that Drake identified as transgender and people assumed that Drake was male to female.

Apparently there is a manifesto which I presume will include Drake's 'justification' for the attack. It's so rare for women to be involved in mass shootings but the underlying problem of the ease with which anyone can buy a gun legally in the States, whatever their gender, is the real mystery for me.

Look at people making excuses for her here. Mental health problems, autism, testosterone, etc. No, she is just a murderer who happens to be female this time.

There's a definite group wanting the narrative that women are as bad as men out there. Women can do evil - we get it but the proportions are incomparable to men .

Abso-bloody-lutely!! I'm so glad that other people are seeing this. Trans activists, abetted by the media, are deliberately collapsing the differences between the sexes and want to paint women as more violent than they generally are so that the preponderance of TIMs for sexual and physical violence is less obvious.

Eh no. They are looking for ways of eradicating avoidable murders. Whilst what you are proposing is the equivalent of stopping your ears and hoping the problem goes away. Just like those who say it has nothing to do with guns. It's just a shooter. Who the shooter is and what access they have has everything to do with the shooting and identifying the influencing circumstances can stop this from happening again. These are not excuses.

The media were probably as unsure as people on here. These things get reported very quickly and they all rush to be the first to get it out there so facts won't be fully checked. Just takes a few hours to clarify things.

You seem to be coming from an unusual tangent here?

It is well established that many girls who identify as trans are on the autistic spectrum. That is not " an excuse". It is a detail.

One of the issues, I think, is that many young women genuinely seem to believe there are no differences; or they want to believe that at least. They've been schooled into believeing that men and women are equal - which translates as 'the same'. Some even seem to deny the differnces in physical strength.

I had also wondered about this shooter when I heard about it.

It is very much a male crime, and before the pedants leap on me saying "Women are mindless slaughterers, too", I know that - but the VAST MAJORITY of them are biologically male.

However, it seems that this is a biological female who identifies as male to the extent of committing mass murder. I suppose that this is inevitable - testosterone increases aggression.

It is interesting, though, that the papers are using female pronouns for her. I mean, quite rightly - she is a woman. However if the shooter had been a TiM - a biological male who identifies as a woman - they would also have used female pronouns. Usually you have to carefully read the small print to determine the biological sex of a violent criminal these days.

But not if it's a woman cosplaying a man, it seems.

If this was a male perpetrator they would be described as she, and a woman or at least a trans woman. Because its just a regular woman her gender identity doesn't matter, or as others said its a better headline.
Not that I personally give a shit about her gender identity she was a cold blooded murderer, but in the media these things matter, as they skew reports and statistics regarding female violence, and as pp said, that suits the TRAs agenda.

Eh no. They are looking for ways of eradicating avoidable murders. Whilst what you are proposing is the equivalent of stopping your ears and hoping the problem goes away. Just like those who say it has nothing to do with guns. It's just a shooter. Who the shooter is and what access they have has everything to do with the shooting and identifying the influencing circumstances can stop this from happening again. These are not excuses.

Oh stop it now. If this was a biological male, those sort of replies would have been jumped on immediately. Rightly so. It would be all 'not our crimes' type responses.

And how is it relevant here? Most of them aren't murdering kids.

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Look at people making excuses for her here. Mental health problems, autism, testosterone, etc. No, she is just a murderer who happens to be female this time

No excuses for the behaviour.

Analysis of the drivers in order to try to determine what early interventions might ameliorate risk of this behaviour in individuals in the future.

Basic de programming of radicalised individuals.

Potentially identify individuals who are at more risk of this behaviour.

Oh stop it now. If this was a biological male, those sort of replies would have been jumped on immediately. Rightly so. It would be all 'not our crimes' type responses.

Professionals make careers of analysing the drivers behind violent males too, incels, etc.

'Not our crimes' is simply because we are told they're women, by media and in stats, and we aren't having it.

Yes. It's a consequence of third wave feminism, aggressive misogyny driven trans rights activism and the fact that we live in a service based economy where the middle classes mostly work desk jobs. In countries where physical labour is still the norm, the sex differences in terms of strength are more obvious. (This, incidentally, is why the trans phenom is derided by the working classes. Enough of them still do enough manual labour to know about the sex differences, and the difference in aggressive behaviour levels, too.)

I was a third waver when I was younger and I also believed this rubbish. Until I was hit by a man for the first (and last, please God) time. He barely made any effort and I was thrown backwards and skidded across the floor. It was a hard but a lasting lesson. Men and women are different.

I really think you are missing the point . You seem to be creating a conflict where non actually exists. So I'll refrain from responding further. It would be a lengthy waste of time, no doubt.

Nobody is making excuses.

Spot on.

Life is cheap.

Money is God.

It's because Money is God to so many people that this"trans" ideology has gained so much traction.

There is so much money in surgery, drugs, pornography . . . and a lot of powerful people are pushing it.

Of course one of the ironies in the practice of denying differnce is that these third wave feminists still seem perpelexed and outraged that male violence against women is still a thing.

It seems that each generation has to learn from its own mistakes and don't seem to benefit from wisdom already accrued. Each generation seems to have to go through the same sorts of initiations; travel, broadly, the same pathways as those who have gone before.

Maybe the media coverage will help dispel the myth that transgender people are the most marginalised and at risk people in the world. Or perhaps that is only trans women.
I was reading a thread on reddit about Isla Bryson and the poster was saying that no matter what they did, they were a woman and should be in a women's prison, because cis women did terrible stuff too and they go to a women's prison. TRA logic

It will certainly help to highlight the fact that people with trans identities are just as likely as anyone else to suffer mental health issues and patterns of criminality and violence.

The letter from the TRA group was most definitely making excuses. More than making excuses, it was verging on DARVOing the situation.

Some men have been violent towards women since hominids first swung down from the trees. When the connection between pregnancy and specific paternity was understood by homo erectus, it got worse. It's vital that we understand this and plan it into our feminism, imho. The idea that we can discard the sex differences is extraordinarily arrogant. The fact that increasing numbers of us live primarily through cyberspace, makes this tendency worse.

On Reddit I have read posts by young people who believe that the female clitoris is no different from the penis, just smaller. That female breasts and male 'breasts' have the same tissue structure. That women can have the same levels of testosterone as men. It's madness.

If this was a male perpetrator they would be described as she, and a woman or at least a trans woman. Because its just a regular woman her gender identity doesn't matter, or as others said its a better headline.

I think a bit of both. This isn't the first time I've seen this with an FTM alleged to have committed a violent act.

It would be interesting to see if this transsexual Male, was undergoing any treatment. As in testosterone injections.

Sadly testosterone and violence go hand in hand. Testosterone plays a part in the arousal of these behaviours.

Is this a new risk to these treatments? Does artificially increasing someone's testosterone level, increase risk of harm?

Testosterone is an interesting hormone, too little in a male can increase aggressiveness and violent behaviours, as seen in men who misuse anabolic steroids aka roid rage, and too much testosterone and it can also increase aggressive behaviours.

Maybe we really shouldn't be messing with peoples endocrine systems. No good will come of it.

I find this curious. The confusion is down to how this is being report and what has become standard protocol.

If it's a male who has committed a crime, then the adherence to pronouns and gender identity seems to be immediate and constant. Even sex offenders get this treatment, being referred to as she and by their female name but then details of their past are mentioned as a side point.

In this case, where it is a female, from the word go the press have referred to a woman identifying as a man, referred to her as 'she' but goes by he/him. There's not been any attempt to use he / him or describe as male.

It's categorically different treatment.

It's almost as if the press tries to pin male crimes on women but is desperate to point out that women can be violent too and we must not be mistaken in labelling a females crimes as male.

It's fascinating to watch the sexism on transgender reporting play out.