Is the Trans shooter in Nashville Male or Female?

[Tradeup]

The murderer who came in and killed 3 children and 3 adults is trans and called Audrey, I am confused as to their biological sex.

But that is not what is happening here.

Do you see the difference?

I don't understand why the headlines are screaming TRANS... would they scream GAY or STRAIGHT or BI?

A shooter is a shooter is a shooter. Being trans is neither here nor there.

Awful, hateful reporting.

No, they're not.

Because most of them aren't being told they're so oppressed, that everyone hates them an wants them to not exist and then being told that they need to retaliate alongside images of guns an knives and axes and baseball bats and bricks and fires and do on and do forth.

Stuff like that on top of mental health issues and potential autism or other neuro issues are a very dangerous combination

My view is that there should be no prefix for with the person being referred to as either male or female. This tragic event is just awful for the families and not about the gender of the shooter.

It is absolutely relevant to motive, in the same way as the reporting on Anders Breivik focussed on his right wing ideology. Or the reporting of the Pulse shooting focussed on the fact that it was a gay nightclub.

Recording gender is vital for the public to understand the crime. It's vital when it comes to recording crime statistics.

Did you read the letter, poster on this thread, that I was referring to?

The fact that some groups are using the most vulnerable because trans in this way is entirely relevant.

In this case Audrey left a manifesto and so they know some of the thinking and have sad that her / his gender ideology played a role in the shooting.

Noen of the people she shot were there when she attended the school so this wasn't a targeted attack of specific people. The CCTV footage shows him / her roaming the building prety much looking for people.

It isn't clear what pronouns Audrey used in everyday life. Their family uses she

The public cannot understand this type of crime fully as they do not have access to all the facts - that will only appear much later following an investigation. This is the reporting stage of a dreadful and tragic incident - this was a murder.

This! How very strange.

Since the US is so litigious, I wonder if this will prompt any lawsuits against the TRA groups normalising violence and radicalising terrorists. Or against any of the medical profession involved in the murderer's healthcare and prescriptions.

This is clearly a very disturbed woman. I'm guessing there probably wasn't any counselling support happening as that would be considered hateful conversion therapy.

You know who the most vulnerable people in society are? Children. These fuckwits head straight for a school for a reason. There will be no “day of visibility” for dead children.

Can't have a trans murderer. But a trans sex offender is just FIIIINNNNEEE!

According to the news reports this morning clarified as female, identifying as male.

The photos I've seen show them using 'he/him' pronouns so it does seem strange that the media are for once referring to biological sex.

I noticed this too. It's disgusting- the narrative being changed to suit.

We the public are not stupid. We understand what a mass shooting is. And we want to know who the culprit is. That includes the culprit's sex. It's called 'The News' not the 'Patronising Obfuscation'.

Another horrific shooting in a school, a primary school no less.

I was very confused over whether a man or woman had done this, I assumed it was a man saying he was a woman. God it's so confusing all this nonsense. If it was a woman (a biological woman) who did this why are they referring to her as a woman and not a man, if she was trans? If this was a man pretending to be a woman they'd also be referred to as a woman. Confused.

Criminals should only be identified by their legally recognised gender. That means that unless they have a gender recognition certificate they should be identified by their biological sex.

It is important that crimes are reported and recorded accurately. Also, this murderer has not shown any consideration to the victims and deserves no consideration regarding their feelings about their gender.

Typo? You meant sex, not gender.

Why are the usually very vigilant mumsnet mods not deleting all the posts that are misgendering this trans man?

They tie themselves in knots calling males women but when it’s a woman they can get it right eh.

interesting …

It had a vagina. And probably male hormones, which seems super safe

Not just a gun, but from the look of it, an assault weapon. Why on earth are these things on sale to the public - there’s no justification for private citizens to own assault weapons. On Sky News this morning apparently the NRA have waded in and said that the only way to stop these shootings is to arm the school guards. So the solution to the gun problem is more guns !! Utter lunacy.