Tavistock Radio 4 Today now-ish.

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Apparently Hannah Barnes will be interviewed about her new book re the Tavistock. Sometime before 9 am, I would guess the 8.40 ish slot.

On now.

Nick just brought up institutional capture and homophobia 👍

Its a brilliant interview, Hannah struggling a bit to sum up, understandably as there's so much involved.

8:47 on iPlayer

V good piece on women's football refs following - well horrific.

Today doing better resporting on women's issues than woman's hour at the moment...

Just listened to it. She wasn’t given a long slot, but did manage to point out that many patients had co-morbidity problems that weren’t explored and that the well known interference from certain groups was definitely a factor in the centre’s approach.

The point she clearly felt needed the most emphasis, though, was the homophobia she said ran through the service; some of it coming from the patients themselves (and, tellingly, their parents) who didn’t want to face up to their sexuality.

It’ll be a painful but interesting read.

Female refs knocked out

2 hours 46 mins in on bbc sounds now

Justin Webb was the interviewer. He's always very good.

Thank you Hannah for speaking out so well on this

that was good! reminder to throw some veg at LGB Alliance

Justin! Sorry! Yes he's good.

Thanks will listen. So great to hear her given time to speak about her book.

I wonder if she’ll be given time on WH considering the vast increase in girls which were referred to that service. (I won’t hold my breath)

She alluded to, but did not mention Mermaids etc.

Thank you

That's horrible. Lifetime ban surely? A mate of mine played as prop forward. For one game they had a woman ref who he described as quite petite.
He thought he could get up to his tricks in the scrum but no way. ' Oy - you're boring in . Scrummage straight ! ' etc etc .

The forwards exchanged knowing looks , all thinking ' she's bloody good '

Sorry that was a reply to @WarriorNun

Excellent piece, well done Hannah, great interviewing Nick

They’re going to talk about GIDS and Tavistock on Women’s Hour now too.

Heard too - started a new thread

This is going to be discussed on Woman's Hour later. It would be great to have Emma Barnett in the chair. Instead, let's see how Nuala McGovern does.

Yes that part was pretty shocking. She said she felt it was going to be a death that triggers anything to be done about in