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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The title “Professional” is now a dog whistle

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WhyThatsDelightful · 09/02/2023 08:16

Just my personal view of a Professional body representing Social Workers working with Children and Families stating:

““Family values” is a broad-spectrum dog whistle that has been used to signal opposition to liberalism, feminism, comprehensive sex education, atheism, homosexuality, trans people, same-sex marriage, and divorce with the implication that these are immoral and threaten the fabric of society. In the specific context of anti-trans dog whistles, “family values” is currently being used to stoke moral panic over the alleged existence of a predatory”

www.basw.co.uk/media/news/2023/jan/part-4-dog-whistles-context-transphobia

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PaleBlueMoonlight · 09/02/2023 08:27

Ah, Jane Fae.

Tallisker · 09/02/2023 08:30

Is that the extreme porn advocate?

LizziesTwin · 09/02/2023 08:31

Is the article by JF? If it is I don’t want to give it any clicks & read it.

zen1 · 09/02/2023 08:35

God knows why the BASW wants to give oxygen to the opinions of pro-porn Fae.

Signalbox · 09/02/2023 08:37

PaleBlueMoonlight · 09/02/2023 08:27

Ah, Jane Fae.

What a load of bollocks.

Are SW registrants supposed to take articles like this seriously?

Abhannmor · 09/02/2023 08:41

Isn't Valid a dog whistle too ...or should it be a red flag. I first encountered Valid in music papers like NME.

' People say it's pretentious but I think what we're doing is valid ' some old proggie would intone. From this we gleaned that Valid must be the opposite of pretentious.

Now all sorts of people brandish the word Family. The classic Mom and Apple pie cliché. But is it to be a non word now on that account ? Like mother itself. We could be edging into Year Zero territory.

Milan Kundera said - ' The struggle to remember IS the struggle '. I never really knew what he meant tbh. But I'm starting to get it.

Tinkeytonkoldfruit · 09/02/2023 08:42

Arghhhhhhhh I utterly despair of my profession that is supposed to centre critical thinking and professional curiousity. I'm also rethinking my union subs but where else can I go?!

WhyThatsDelightful · 09/02/2023 09:06

Signalbox · 09/02/2023 08:37

What a load of bollocks.

Are SW registrants supposed to take articles like this seriously?

Unfortunately, many in Social Work, NHS and Schools take this guidance very seriously.

Julie Bindel provides some impact of this culture of elevating ideology over professional practice.

unherd.com/2023/01/blackpools-forsaken-children/

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WhyThatsDelightful · 09/02/2023 09:07

Guidance that campaigns to replace the family (child’s trusted parents or careers) with “grown ups”.

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nilsmousehammer · 09/02/2023 09:18

I think we're down to 'tea cup' and 'supercalifragalistic' - damn, no that one's definitely now transphobic, I'd forgotten.

It's tea cup. You're all allowed to say tea cup.

Look Simba, everything the light touches...... (except tea cups)

frazzled1 · 09/02/2023 09:32

“Adult human female” is part of the anti-trans slogan “woman = adult human female”. The implication here is that everyone’s gender is immutably determined by the sex they are assigned at birth and therefore trans identities are not valid.

Sigh. Nobody is saying trans identities are not "valid". However:

14th October 2021, BBC Question Time, Professor Robert Winston (FMedSci, FRSA, FRCP, FRCOG, FREng) "I will say this categorically, you cannot change your sex."

Helleofabore · 09/02/2023 09:43

Jane Fae? Had anything to do with social workers? Fuck!

How can that individual, who advocates for extreme porn, the lowering of the porn acting age to include minors, who publishes their own misogyny such as victim blaming women’s fragile skulls as being the blame for murder, be invited to have anything to do with social work?

Do these people never do their background checks?

Grammarnut · 09/02/2023 10:00

frazzled1 · 09/02/2023 09:32

“Adult human female” is part of the anti-trans slogan “woman = adult human female”. The implication here is that everyone’s gender is immutably determined by the sex they are assigned at birth and therefore trans identities are not valid.

Sigh. Nobody is saying trans identities are not "valid". However:

14th October 2021, BBC Question Time, Professor Robert Winston (FMedSci, FRSA, FRCP, FRCOG, FREng) "I will say this categorically, you cannot change your sex."

Totally agree with Prof Winston, you cannot change sex. Entire JF post is misogynistic and gender woo woo.

nilsmousehammer · 09/02/2023 10:00

“Adult human female” is part of the anti-trans slogan “woman = adult human female”. The implication here is that everyone’s gender is immutably determined by the sex they are assigned at birth and therefore trans identities are not valid.

I'm sorry, what?

Is this an implication that all should pretend reality does not exist so that they do not invalidate anyone's beliefs?

SinnerBoy · 09/02/2023 10:18

Here's another little snippet from the blog:

41%” refers to a grim statistic from the 2011 US National Transgender Discrimination Survey (in which a staggering 41% of 6,450 respondents said they had attempted suicide at some point in their lives...

AKA a big hairy bag of lies.

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 09/02/2023 10:29

Where are all these dogs who are being whistled to?

And why do they want to destroy the nuclear family so much?
Is it because children who don’t have a stable family environment are easier prey for predators to target? 🤔

NitroNine · 09/02/2023 11:02

And more importantly, who let said dogs out? (Who, who who, who who?)

BaronMunchausen · 09/02/2023 11:08

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 09/02/2023 10:29

Where are all these dogs who are being whistled to?

And why do they want to destroy the nuclear family so much?
Is it because children who don’t have a stable family environment are easier prey for predators to target? 🤔

I loathe the phrase "dog whistle". Seems like a dog whistle for straw man.

Thelnebriati · 09/02/2023 12:17

For everyone that doesn't want to click the link, its been archived;
archive.is/a6keN

I'm horrified that an organisation representing social workers thinks that an extreme porn advocate, who has minimised domestic violence with comments about banality and 'eggshell skulls' is a suitable person to be writing for them.

Thelnebriati · 09/02/2023 12:20

Heads up; Mumsnet are blocking archived links again 🙄

archive.is /a6keN

How does an extreme porn advocate who refers to domestic violence using phrased like 'banal' and 'eggshell skulls' get to be a suitable person to educate social workers?

Thelnebriati · 09/02/2023 12:20

FFS. The link has been archived.

Thelnebriati · 09/02/2023 12:21

Can someone report one of my hidden comments and ask Mumsnet to unhide it? They an remove the archived link if they want. I can't see a report button.

HorribleNecktie · 09/02/2023 12:26

Jane Fae wrote a blog where he advised people on how to delete potentially illegal Pornography from their hard drives so they won’t get collared for it.

Jane Fae has written for fetish publications in the past.

Jane Fae announced Jane Fae’s transition just before Jane Fae’s daughter was due to sit her A Levels.

Jane Fae said that fatal domestic violence victims have “egg shell skulls” and that’s why they died.

Jane Fae is the same size and shape of a wardrobe.

Sazzasez · 09/02/2023 12:34

My TerfRock band will be called “Dogwhistle Tinnitus”.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/02/2023 12:35

Helleofabore · 09/02/2023 09:43

Jane Fae? Had anything to do with social workers? Fuck!

How can that individual, who advocates for extreme porn, the lowering of the porn acting age to include minors, who publishes their own misogyny such as victim blaming women’s fragile skulls as being the blame for murder, be invited to have anything to do with social work?

Do these people never do their background checks?

It's interesting to note that many of the links evidencing their interest in extreme porn appear to have disappeared from Google. Fortunately Mumsnet have been on the case for some years and are very keen on using free speech to expose why certain adults shouldn't be allowed to influence social work child safeguarding or VAWG practice :

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3374614-John-Ozimek-now-Jane-Fae-on-women-feminists-and-victims-of-pornographers

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