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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Tiktoker face reveal trending on Twitter

23 replies

TribbleWithoutACause · 29/01/2023 09:57

The amount of attention that this person is getting is crazy, and I can’t for the life of me work out why.

If a woman had done something similar, the reaction would be vastly different.

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terryleather · 29/01/2023 10:26

The thing to do with narcs is grey rock them, so ignoring this egregious fud is the best way forward.

NancyDrawed · 29/01/2023 10:43

I watched Isaac's YT on this last night (Issac Uncooked, formerly Cluniac - detransitioned man)

I find DM intensely irritating but he has found something to exploit and is going all out. I suspect he is quite vulnerable but is feeding off all the attention he courts and gets. Grey rock would destroy (or perhaps ultimately save) him, but I don't think that's going to happen any time soon and I can't fault his self promotion, it's been very successful.

As Isaac says, he still looks like a man - albeit one who has had facial surgery. In the same way as women and men who have extensive facial surgery don't look younger, they look like people who have had plastic surgery.

DarkDayforMN · 29/01/2023 10:48

It strikes me as exactly the same dynamic you see with the figure skater in the “More top sportswomen” thread.

An unbelievably patronising and embarrassing level of pandering and double standards. Matronising? It often comes from women. And it’s very reminiscent of someone complimenting a five year old’s drawing. But these men are not five year olds and people should stop flipping pretending.

To be fair I think he looks good in the posed still shots (video is another story.) An egg with a face drawn on it would probably look stunning through all those filters.

WinnieFosterReads · 29/01/2023 10:52

Twitter shows you what you look for - it wasn't all over my Twitter. But then I wouldn't start threads on him either. He's just yet another narcissist. Why feed that by pretending it was everywhere? 🙄

ditalini · 29/01/2023 11:03

I was quite surprised at how much the same he looked tbh.

The still pictures were unrecognisable but the video not so much.

It must be unbelievably painful still. Extreme facial surgery on a perfectly normal face seems so 'all pain-little gain'. I felt the same about Kylie on the Stock Aitken and Waterman programme last night fwiw.

DialSquare · 29/01/2023 11:07

When did people become so gullible? He's basically taking the pies out of us all and there are idiots clapping him along.

DialSquare · 29/01/2023 11:10

Bloody autocorrect! I wish someone would take the pies out of me!
I obviously meant Piss.

TheSoddingCat · 29/01/2023 11:56

"I was quite surprised at how much the same he looked tbh."

Yes! For the time and effort and expense I was expecting something far more drastic. Still looks like a bloke to me

I certainly didn't go looking for it, it came up on my tiktok fyp 🤷‍♀️

Givenitarest · 29/01/2023 16:54

It's very, very subtle until they smile. Then it looks very stretched. It's still early days but it's a gruelling surgery to go through. I really sympathise with them over feeling that they couldn't go through their life being the gay, flamboyant, charming man they were before. Gender dysphoria is a terrible condition that I wouldn't wish on my worse enemy. And I doubt this will be their last facial surgery.

robin5810 · 29/01/2023 18:05

She modified her appearance to relieve crippling dysphoria, and the reason she’s so popular is she has helped and saved the lives of many young trans people.

robin5810 · 29/01/2023 18:06

Also, everyone on this thread is misgendering her. She’s a woman, like it or not, and her pronouns are she/her so if you’re a decent person you’ll respect them.

robin5810 · 29/01/2023 18:07

WinnieFosterReads · 29/01/2023 10:52

Twitter shows you what you look for - it wasn't all over my Twitter. But then I wouldn't start threads on him either. He's just yet another narcissist. Why feed that by pretending it was everywhere? 🙄

How on earth is she a narcissist by showing her journey as a trans woman?

DrDinosaur · 29/01/2023 18:26

He is a man. Humans can’t change sex.

Seasonofthewitch83 · 29/01/2023 18:29

I think they look great, they see, to be a good person so it doesn't bother me.

There are far, far, FAR worse men on Tik Tok who outght mock both women and trans women for attention.

dementedpixie · 29/01/2023 18:29

robin5810 · 29/01/2023 18:06

Also, everyone on this thread is misgendering her. She’s a woman, like it or not, and her pronouns are she/her so if you’re a decent person you’ll respect them.

In what way are they a woman?
Your misgendering is our correctly sexing

OvaHere · 29/01/2023 18:33

robin5810 · 29/01/2023 18:06

Also, everyone on this thread is misgendering her. She’s a woman, like it or not, and her pronouns are she/her so if you’re a decent person you’ll respect them.

He's a grown man who calls himself a girl and makes insulting, misogynistic parodies of 'girlhood'. Also has an unhealthy obsession with tampons.

TidyDancer · 29/01/2023 19:02

What @OvaHere said. Dylan is an odd case. So odd in fact that I still wonder now if this is part of some big ideological exposé. I think he's quite a damaged lad but is also doing damage now so it's not neutral or even positive.

TheClogLady · 29/01/2023 19:05

robin5810 · 29/01/2023 18:06

Also, everyone on this thread is misgendering her. She’s a woman, like it or not, and her pronouns are she/her so if you’re a decent person you’ll respect them.

Guess I’m not a decent person then!

A woman is an adult human female.

Dylan is an adult human male who is altering his appearance via surgical and hormonal procedures.

Human beings can’t change sex and Dylan was born male, so Dylan will die male. This is just biological fact, not a value judgement.

I feel sad that a perfectly normal looking, healthy human being has been enabled (via TikTok earnings) and encouraged (via online attention) to alter himself in this manner.

I fear this is the beginning of Dylan’s Jocelyn Wildenstein/ Rodrigo Alves story arc.

I’m interested in how Dylan has saved lives tho - can you elaborate? Does Dylan have an evening job working for the emergency services?

WarriorN · 29/01/2023 19:07

TidyDancer · 29/01/2023 19:02

What @OvaHere said. Dylan is an odd case. So odd in fact that I still wonder now if this is part of some big ideological exposé. I think he's quite a damaged lad but is also doing damage now so it's not neutral or even positive.

have thought the same.

Regarding misgendering, #Idon'tcare about men's feelings

bellac11 · 29/01/2023 19:12

In my case, its not so much about not caring about mens feelings, I care about them as much as I care about anything else, but it doesnt mean that Im going to talk rubbish to assuage those feelings, his feelings are his to manage

His sex is male, so his pronouns are male, thats a fact

He can say his gender is whatever word he wants to put on that. Its about as much relevance to anything as his favourite colour or star sign. Thats his own internal business, not mine.

ANameChangePresents · 29/01/2023 19:15

TheClogLady · 29/01/2023 19:05

Guess I’m not a decent person then!

A woman is an adult human female.

Dylan is an adult human male who is altering his appearance via surgical and hormonal procedures.

Human beings can’t change sex and Dylan was born male, so Dylan will die male. This is just biological fact, not a value judgement.

I feel sad that a perfectly normal looking, healthy human being has been enabled (via TikTok earnings) and encouraged (via online attention) to alter himself in this manner.

I fear this is the beginning of Dylan’s Jocelyn Wildenstein/ Rodrigo Alves story arc.

I’m interested in how Dylan has saved lives tho - can you elaborate? Does Dylan have an evening job working for the emergency services?

Bravo!

TheWitchesAreBackInTown · 29/01/2023 19:46

robin5810 · 29/01/2023 18:06

Also, everyone on this thread is misgendering her. She’s a woman, like it or not, and her pronouns are she/her so if you’re a decent person you’ll respect them.

He's a man, always will be. He is a he. Even if he says he is a girl.

TribbleWithoutACause · 29/01/2023 20:26

Well, it was trending on mine for whatever reason for over twenty four hours and came up on my tiktok FYP (along with my normal cat videos).

I just literally don’t understand the amount of public fawning, just don’t get it at all.

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