Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

A reminder of the people who said there was 'no evidence'.

25 replies

ArabellaScott · 27/01/2023 16:54

'...we must be clear: all of the evidence tells us that the cause of violence against women and girls is predatory and abusive men; not trans people. And importantly, we must not conflate the two. There is no evidence that predatory and abusive men have ever had to pretend to be anything else to carry out abusive and predatory behaviour.'

www.gov.scot/publications/gender-recognition-reform-scotland-bill-cabinet-secretarys-statement/

Shona Robison, Cabinet Secretary of the Scottish Government.

OP posts:
ArabellaScott · 27/01/2023 16:57

'there are no judicial or administrative findings of abuse by predatory males'

Victor Madrigal-Borloz, UN Independent Expert on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity

twitter.com/victor_madrigal/status/1603778323233984512

OP posts:
Willynuts · 27/01/2023 17:02

98% of violent/sexual crime is committed by men.

Transwomen are biological men.

There is already a fuck ton of examples of transwomen committing sex crimes with their lady penises.

No penises in women's spaces.

BlackeyedSusan · 27/01/2023 17:06

Thanks Arabella

This is really important to record.

Confectionary · 27/01/2023 17:14

Thank you @ArabellaScott for the source links. I hadn’t read before that SG were expecting GRC applications to rise from 30 per year to 250-300 per year, a fact very much minimised in the speech transcript.

ArabellaScott · 27/01/2023 17:14

Nicola Sturgeon:

'Of course, there are concerns that men may abuse provisions relating to trans people to harm women.

"However, one of the comments of the UN official is that there is no evidence that that is the case in any of the countries that already have such legislation in place'

uk.style.yahoo.com/sturgeon-says-no-evidence-men-185757037.html

OP posts:
WarriorN · 27/01/2023 17:16

No evidence as none recorded is not the same as no evidence....

Helleofabore · 27/01/2023 17:16

ArabellaScott · 27/01/2023 16:54

'...we must be clear: all of the evidence tells us that the cause of violence against women and girls is predatory and abusive men; not trans people. And importantly, we must not conflate the two. There is no evidence that predatory and abusive men have ever had to pretend to be anything else to carry out abusive and predatory behaviour.'

www.gov.scot/publications/gender-recognition-reform-scotland-bill-cabinet-secretarys-statement/

Shona Robison, Cabinet Secretary of the Scottish Government.

Good to keep them honest Arabella

ArabellaScott · 27/01/2023 17:19

Maggie Chapman

'Ms Chapman, the co-convener of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, reiterated the comment in the recent interview when she said: "Predatory men have never needed to identify as a woman to get into women’s-only spaces, for a start."'

www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/maggie-chapmans-latest-trans-comments-26513189

OP posts:
ArabellaScott · 27/01/2023 17:28

twitter.com/glasgowpam/status/1436418448419135500

'For the avoidance of doubt. Trans women are women, trans men are men. Trans rights are human rights. For as long as I’m an MSP, equality means equality, for everyone, without exception.'

Pam Duncan-Glancy.

OP posts:
WarriorN · 27/01/2023 17:35

There's this odd stat though:

compared to men, transwomen are 252% more likely to commit and be convicted of a sexual offence.

(I'm under no illusion that these individuals have true gender dysphoria. This is the system being played / not working.)

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 17:37

Confectionary · 27/01/2023 17:14

Thank you @ArabellaScott for the source links. I hadn’t read before that SG were expecting GRC applications to rise from 30 per year to 250-300 per year, a fact very much minimised in the speech transcript.

And honestly it would have been a much higher figure each year I reckon.

Especially when half the population applied to become Men!!!

It would have been the only way to prove the absurdity if it all.

Instead it Turns out a man in pink leggings with a small cock who just happened to be a rapist and only found jesus, I mean trans as he faced years behind bars did a much quicker job of it.

WarriorN · 27/01/2023 17:47

Definitely higher than that

WarriorN · 27/01/2023 17:48

Predatory men have never needed to identify as a woman to get into women’s-only spaces, for a start.

Add in agp and sissy hypno porn though and...

MERKINBoiledbeetleHAGGIS · 27/01/2023 17:56

WarriorN · 27/01/2023 17:48

Predatory men have never needed to identify as a woman to get into women’s-only spaces, for a start.

Add in agp and sissy hypno porn though and...

It's fact, we all know they don't need to.

They all completely missed the fact that some predatory men just want to!

Rainbowshit · 27/01/2023 17:57

They must be fuming at the timing of "Isla'" trial!

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 18:00

Rainbowshit · 27/01/2023 17:57

They must be fuming at the timing of "Isla'" trial!

Imagine if the trial had finished in November. None of this would be happening.

One small penis for mankind. One giant leap for women!

Velvian · 27/01/2023 18:06

@WarriorN , that statistic does not surprise me. How much gender dysphoria in males is autogynephillia? If societal boundaries are eroded to allow sexual fetishes to be played out in non sexual contexts, other boundaries are surely likely to be violated.

nepeta · 27/01/2023 18:11

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 18:00

Imagine if the trial had finished in November. None of this would be happening.

One small penis for mankind. One giant leap for women!

Thanks for the giggle caused by your last sentence. Now thinking of a weird hurdle race in Olympics...

WarriorN · 27/01/2023 18:11

Quite.

Many of the key individuals Reduxx, Genevieve Gluck, Glinner and wings over Scotland have covered in articles have a range of additional 'interests.'

nepeta · 27/01/2023 18:15

Absence of evidence, of course, does not mean evidence of absence when such evidence is explicitly either not collected (Ireland) or not allowed to be disseminated (seems that this is partly what's happening in Belgium).

I have gathered together all sorts of newspaper links from the ThisNeverHappens thread here and from other places. Men dressing as women in order to attack either women or children does not seem very unusual, in general, to give just one example.

It's not possible to calculate the frequency of something happening if we are not given the actual numbers and the likely sub-population sizes of trans women, non-trans men doing this etc. Currently the evidence is not mostly available from governments without great effort, and some US states (California, and New York is trying) are banning people even finding out how many male people might be in women's prisons in those states.

Farmageddon · 27/01/2023 18:33

ArabellaScott · 27/01/2023 17:19

Maggie Chapman

'Ms Chapman, the co-convener of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, reiterated the comment in the recent interview when she said: "Predatory men have never needed to identify as a woman to get into women’s-only spaces, for a start."'

www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/maggie-chapmans-latest-trans-comments-26513189

"Predatory men have never needed to identify as a woman to get into women’s-only spaces, for a start."

That's not true though - 20 or 30 years ago the thought of putting men in women's prisons would have been laughable. Now it's progressive.

While it's true that some men will violate women's spaces regardless, they now have carte blanche to do so, and the ability to shame and shout down people who disagree (like the serial flasher in the Wi Spa incident, where the woman who objected was seen as the problem, not the sex offender waving his willy around young children).

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 18:37

nepeta · 27/01/2023 18:11

Thanks for the giggle caused by your last sentence. Now thinking of a weird hurdle race in Olympics...

With the nice boot from the tra protest posters on our feet as we accidentally tread on each penis hurdle, well they would be that small we wouldn't really be able to see them would we? (Innocent face)

nepeta · 27/01/2023 19:31

Boiledbeetle · 27/01/2023 18:37

With the nice boot from the tra protest posters on our feet as we accidentally tread on each penis hurdle, well they would be that small we wouldn't really be able to see them would we? (Innocent face)

😇

highame · 28/01/2023 10:30

Article 97, fourth paragraph, and Article 108, second paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention III provide that women prisoners of war undergoing disciplinary punishment or convicted of an offence shall be confined in separate quarters from men and shall be under the immediate supervision of women.

I've always found this profound when talking about women prisoners but I find it relevant for any situation where a transgender debate is taking place.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page