Radio 5 live doing Scotland GRA phone in right now...

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Only it's 20 mins in now, and no callers allowed on yet.

No publicity for it on Twitter either.

Nicky Campbell has a special voice for TW just like Jeremy Vine!

Yes. So the first caller is a transwoman and the second caller is a man talking about Brexit. No thread for it on Twitter.

I caught the end of it. Three male contributors and a male presenter.

This caller is heartbreaking.

But conflating gay rights with trans rights is not helpful

Nicky Campbell patting himself on the back for having a reasonable debate – achieved by having virtually no dissenting voices on! And then one of the callers says trans voices are being crowded out 🙄

Nicky Campbell and others are so used to playing the "be kind" "it's only a tiny marginalised minority" schtick. Sunlight is pouring in and they are going have to get a new approach.

Not on this evidence!