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Wi Spa Indecent Exposure Suspect Finally Arrested

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NotBadConsidering · 20/12/2022 11:48

You know, that thing that didn’t happen, and the Guardian reported as a hoax made up by right wing fundamentalist Christians…

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11555915/amp/Transgender-pervert-arrested-15-months-exposed-women-Wi-Spa-LA.html

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Babdoc · 20/12/2022 11:55

How can they still use the ridiculous gaslighting term “her penis”? Particularly when referring to a multiple convicted male sex offender?
This is an absolute insult to women. I hope HE gets a lengthy prison term.

Ramblingnamechanger · 20/12/2022 11:56

Does this count as actual evidence…? perhaps a Scottish resident could send it to MSPs today

Mmmnotsure · 20/12/2022 12:00

A biological male, Merager - who said he would fight his case in court before suddenly going on the run in September 2021 - faces 11 charges in total for the pair of incidents, where she allegedly used his status as a transgender woman to access women's changing areas and show his partially erect penis to those inside.

What a sentence. Pronouns, anyone?

A moment's silence for the English language.

Theundertaker · 20/12/2022 12:01

It really puts paid to the 'if anyone is behaving badly in a woman's space you can just report them and it will be dealt with' theory, doesn't it?
Because of course what actually happened was the woman reported this sex offender flashing and all the enlightened, left wing media accused her of making it up. Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

nocoolnamesleft · 20/12/2022 12:01

Babdoc · 20/12/2022 11:55

How can they still use the ridiculous gaslighting term “her penis”? Particularly when referring to a multiple convicted male sex offender?
This is an absolute insult to women. I hope HE gets a lengthy prison term.

On the plus side, it may encourage some on the fence to see how ridiculous it is...

Theundertaker · 20/12/2022 12:02

Oh and the spa staff said there was nothing they could do about it.

NotBadConsidering · 20/12/2022 12:02

I’ve said before I wish a paper as big as the Mail would just say no to the IPSO imposed pronoun rule and force IPSO to take action against them. It would make a great case. I don’t know why the Mail are such cowards on that, toeing the line. Just no. This is a man. He exposed his penis to women and children.

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 20/12/2022 12:05

Hell's teeth, @Mmmnotsure - that paragraph makes my brain hurt!

@Ramblingnamechanger - no, I'm sure this would not count as real evidence as far as Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP are concerned. Evidence is only real evidence if it supports the SNP 100%.

A recent poll showed that two-thirds of Scottish people do NOT agree with the SNP's gender law reforms. If a poll had a similar result, in favour of another Indyref, Nicola would be trumpeting it from the rooftops, insisting that ignoring such a result is ignoring the democratic will of the people of Scotland. Strangely she is completely silent on the result of this poll. So she and the SNP are only interested in the democratic will of the people of Scotland if they agree with the SNP. Righty ho.

NotBadConsidering · 20/12/2022 12:06

Ramblingnamechanger · 20/12/2022 11:56

Does this count as actual evidence…? perhaps a Scottish resident could send it to MSPs today

This case proves everything. Either

a) this is transwoman who poses just as much a risk as other males or
b) this a man who used the protection of laws to falsely access women’s spaces by pretending to be a transwoman.

Of course it will be dismissed because it’s never enough, it’s always n + 1.

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aweegc · 20/12/2022 12:08

NotBadConsidering · 20/12/2022 12:02

I’ve said before I wish a paper as big as the Mail would just say no to the IPSO imposed pronoun rule and force IPSO to take action against them. It would make a great case. I don’t know why the Mail are such cowards on that, toeing the line. Just no. This is a man. He exposed his penis to women and children.

Good point. Why exactly are they toeing them line?

Am so sorry for all the women and children involved in this case. Glad the ones in the spa have been vindicated now though.

FunnyTalks · 20/12/2022 12:12

Theundertaker · 20/12/2022 12:01

It really puts paid to the 'if anyone is behaving badly in a woman's space you can just report them and it will be dealt with' theory, doesn't it?
Because of course what actually happened was the woman reported this sex offender flashing and all the enlightened, left wing media accused her of making it up. Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

This with festive bells on.

Thanks to the Guardian and Scotland for proving the points that feminists have been making all along.

Merlott · 20/12/2022 12:12

NotBadConsidering · 20/12/2022 12:06

This case proves everything. Either

a) this is transwoman who poses just as much a risk as other males or
b) this a man who used the protection of laws to falsely access women’s spaces by pretending to be a transwoman.

Of course it will be dismissed because it’s never enough, it’s always n + 1.

Yes exactly this. A or B, which is it?
But no, somehow it's neither.

Wellies54 · 20/12/2022 12:16

NotBadConsidering · 20/12/2022 12:02

I’ve said before I wish a paper as big as the Mail would just say no to the IPSO imposed pronoun rule and force IPSO to take action against them. It would make a great case. I don’t know why the Mail are such cowards on that, toeing the line. Just no. This is a man. He exposed his penis to women and children.

I think in this case, using 'she' while making it clear that this is a male is the clever thing to do. Those who support GI either need to accept that this is a transwoman who is a sex offender with a penis, proving that these do in fact exist, or if they say it's a man masquerading as a transwoman they'll have to work out what the difference is and commit the 'literal violence ' of not respecting 'her' preferred pronouns!

Wellies54 · 20/12/2022 12:18

@Merlott cross posted!

MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/12/2022 12:20

NotBadConsidering · 20/12/2022 12:02

I’ve said before I wish a paper as big as the Mail would just say no to the IPSO imposed pronoun rule and force IPSO to take action against them. It would make a great case. I don’t know why the Mail are such cowards on that, toeing the line. Just no. This is a man. He exposed his penis to women and children.

THIS.
All the press have had cosy chats with numerous trans organisations seeking to blur facts and ensure misreporting of issues. It's time they woke up to their responsibilities to the public for providing accurate truthful recording of issues, not telling outright lies.

LaughingPriest · 20/12/2022 12:22

This needs putting on a huge banner and displaying... well, anywhere, really.

LaughingPriest · 20/12/2022 12:23

Theundertaker · 20/12/2022 12:01

It really puts paid to the 'if anyone is behaving badly in a woman's space you can just report them and it will be dealt with' theory, doesn't it?
Because of course what actually happened was the woman reported this sex offender flashing and all the enlightened, left wing media accused her of making it up. Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

My previous post was supposed to quote this!

nilsmousehammer · 20/12/2022 12:29

Merlott · 20/12/2022 12:12

Yes exactly this. A or B, which is it?
But no, somehow it's neither.

Because everything serves the one law: Heads men win, tails women lose.

All the rest is a lot of attempts at the quickness of the burble deceives the ear.

RoyalCorgi · 20/12/2022 12:37

I think the Mail do it deliberately to demonstrate how ridiculous this ideology is. There are few phrases more laughable than "her penis".

Has the Guardian reported yet?

NotBadConsidering · 20/12/2022 12:41

Has the Guardian reported yet?

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Good one!

Lois Beckett, the Guardian US “journalist” who led the story, has protected her tweets. Also worth remembering that Beckett complained about “anti-paedophile protesters” in one tweet while roaming covering the story, before the penny dropped…

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ArabellaScott · 20/12/2022 12:47

A reminder that the response from a bystander to this woman who raised the alarm was

'you're kind of being a dick'.

bellinisurge · 20/12/2022 12:59

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 20/12/2022 13:13

More evidence for the gender believers to ignore 👍

i’ve come to the conclusion that none of the harms matter to them

the much more patient and mature posters on the board than me will put this in their bag of evidence and spend ages trying to get our various visitors to engage with it, and they won’t give a shit

Fenlandia · 20/12/2022 13:30

NotBadConsidering · 20/12/2022 12:41

Has the Guardian reported yet?

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Good one!

Lois Beckett, the Guardian US “journalist” who led the story, has protected her tweets. Also worth remembering that Beckett complained about “anti-paedophile protesters” in one tweet while roaming covering the story, before the penny dropped…

Speaking of the penny dropping, has Laurie Penny tweeted about this yet? She/they at the time took the line that little girls should just avert their eyes if they see a ladydi*k in their changing room.

miri1985 · 20/12/2022 13:53

Meragher gave an interview while on the run www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/exclusive-transgender-fugitive-who-spurred-wi-spa-riots-bares-all/

"Let’s back up a second. Should we be using male or female pronouns with you? How do you identify?

I’m very neutral, like non-binary, although I don’t like that word. I’m legally female. But I have facial hair. I have a penis. I have no breasts. I don’t have a feminine voice. I don’t wear makeup or dress up like a female. So imagine you’re a grocery store [clerk] and you’re bagging my groceries and you say, “Excuse me, sir . . . ” I mean, am I supposed to be offended? That’d be ridiculous. How would this person know? But technically, for legal terms, I am she/her. I put “female” on my driver’s license. But I’ve had to struggle my whole life fitting into traditional society.

And you sleep with women? You’re a female who has heterosexual sex with females?

I have heterosexual sex because my penis fits in a vagina. I don’t tell women I’m with that I’m transgender because that’s not my sex. So I’m not faking anything. Gender is internal, sex is external."