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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

CPS public consultation ‘deception as to gender’

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BadedasBubbles · 02/10/2022 09:18

Please take a look at the public consultation:

www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/cps-seeks-publics-views-draft-deception-gender-legal-guidance

Siobhan Blake CPS Lead for rape says ‘gender deception cases are rare’
What about the growing number of men who only decide to change gender after they have been caught and convicted like John/Sally Anne Dixon and Stephen Wood/Karen White?

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AppleTreeOwner · 03/10/2022 07:10

Thank you for this link.
For those who are interested. This has been discussed by Dennis Noel Kavanagh (barrister in believe and understands legal processes) which highlights some issues with the wording and gender influence in this consultation document.
54 minutes in on Clive Simpson, queens speech episode 15, available on you tube.

DennisNoelKavanaghOffTwitter · 12/10/2022 00:27

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to say we will be making the Gay Men's Network response to this consultation public so if anyone needs the relevant law they can get it from there, it will also summarise the objections I raised on GB News - should be up next week once we finalise it.

All the best

Dennis

TheClogLady · 12/10/2022 00:42

Thanks Dennis. I’ll wait and copy your homework (in my own words, natch)!

jeaux90 · 12/10/2022 06:40

Thanks Dennis, great summary on Andrew Doyle's show. It's completely bloody outrageous.

Clymene · 12/10/2022 06:48

Thank you Dennis, will keep an eye out for it

NashvilleQueen · 12/10/2022 07:03

I understand the point after men who change after conviction but that's not for the CPS. It's for the prison service or offender management etc. The CPS don't take responsibility for convicted defendants so why would they consult on that point?

Imnobody4 · 12/10/2022 08:21

There have been 3 threads on this but it keeps dropping off the first page. It's got some other useful links on. I agree this is really important so we need to keep it live and share links.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4641909-cps-consultation-on-guidance-re-sex-by-deception?latest=1

Pinpot · 12/10/2022 08:24

Hey Dennis, thanks for speaking out
on all this. I'm with you 100%.

BadedasBubbles · 14/10/2022 09:13

Thanks Dennis - your makes some great points in your interview with Andrew Doyle.
Don’t know how to share here but it’s on Andrew Doyle twitter page

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DennisNoelKavanaghOffTwitter · 08/11/2022 10:23

The Gay Men's Network has responded to the CPS consultation on sex crimes involving deceptions as to biological sex. In it, we warn of Institutional ideological capture, victim blaming and inequality before the law

Read our full response here (first link in letters and responses)

We include in our response a draft email for anyone who wants to write in supporting our submission at pages 34-35. If you wish to adapt the law or arguments in the response please feel completely free to do so.

Details on how to respond to the consultation are available at the CPS website here - it closes 19th December 2022.

If you support our work advocating for the interests of homosexual males, please consider donating, our work requires infrastructure and with more donations we can make more of a difference.

Stay tuned for the GMN response to the NHS Interim Service Specs consultation and a public communication on the Equal Treatment Benchbook among our other projects.

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