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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Recruiting for women or women with penises?

15 replies

Pugfostermum · 20/07/2022 18:57

I saw this job ad today and immediately wondered about the + detailed, regarding the people they particularly want applications from.

I'm guessing if a man applies who identifies as a woman, then their box is ticked. Lovely ladies working in the team!

I do wonder how this will skew equal ops recruitment stats in the next few years…….. Particularly if male-dominated industries looking to even up their ratios, are easier for men to get into if they are women………

Better for employers too, as no pesky maternity leave and likely fewer childcare responsibilities to worry about………

Recruiting for women or women with penises?
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NewBootsAndRanty · 20/07/2022 19:00

Surely you're taking issue with the T there, not the +?

Pugfostermum · 20/07/2022 19:05

Ah, I’m never sure what is what!

I assumed the + meant anyone who is anything or identifies with/as anything to cover all bases!

You’re right though, it’s the T!

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bellinisurge · 20/07/2022 19:07

Everything to the right of LGB is straight people.

TeenDivided · 20/07/2022 19:44

They could have just said 'anyone who isn't a straight white man'.

LunaLights · 21/07/2022 04:00

Not disabled people, though…

KittenKong · 21/07/2022 08:22

TeenDivided · 20/07/2022 19:44

They could have just said 'anyone who isn't a straight white man'.

That’s what I was thinking!

WearyLady · 21/07/2022 12:19

How big is this company? If, as we're led to believe, 1% or less of the population falls under the T category (don't know about Q+) then only up to 1 in 100 employees needs to be T for this category to be representative of the rest of society.

Just saying ..,

SpaceJamtart · 21/07/2022 12:25

WearyLady · 21/07/2022 12:19

How big is this company? If, as we're led to believe, 1% or less of the population falls under the T category (don't know about Q+) then only up to 1 in 100 employees needs to be T for this category to be representative of the rest of society.

Just saying ..,

@WearyLady
They are saying they want to hire people who are under represented in the industry of bike mechanics not underrepresented within their company.
If this one company hires a higher percentage of underrepresented people then they are doing their part to help balance out the representation across the industry.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/07/2022 12:27

I very much doubt that male people are "underrepresented in the industry of bike mechanics"

WearyLady · 21/07/2022 12:27

Mind you, if they go with a TW, they've increased the number of trans staff and the number of women. That's clearly the way to go.

Apologies. I'm being mischievous here
I'll switch off and get back to my jobs.

CaveMum · 21/07/2022 12:28

Fits in with what the Scottish Government are trying to mandate:

"The new statutory guidance states transgender women should be counted as female in workplace quotas, if they hold a Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC)."

twitter.com/ForWomenScot/status/1549867598036312066?s=20&t=oNAuzzfL5XNTgd9jw-XQXw

WearyLady · 21/07/2022 12:32

A serious question; does that mean they get double counted then?

CaveMum · 21/07/2022 12:57

WearyLady · 21/07/2022 12:32

A serious question; does that mean they get double counted then?

I think they just get counted as "women". Meaning that a 10 person company employing 5 men and 5 transwomen can count themselves as being totally gender balanced 🙄

WearyLady · 21/07/2022 13:41

But doesn't that mean that the T community end up being totally erased? They'll never get counted anywhere if they're only ever counted as their acquired gender. And they'll end up being totally underrepresented in any diversity equity counts.

DdraigGoch · 21/07/2022 14:57

I'm guessing if a man applies who identifies as a woman, then their box is ticked.

Even better, a straight man applying under the name "Barbara" can tick both "woman" and "LGBTQ+", killing two birds with one stone.

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