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Big update on Rape Crisis legal challenge

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IamSarah · 29/04/2022 13:29

I know many of you have been waiting for an update so first of all thank you for your patience and the many messages of support.

I am suing Survivors Network, the Sussex Rape Crisis service, as it refused to offer a single sex women’s group in addition to the mixed sex women’s groups. By mixed sex I mean inclusive of any males who identify as women.

I’ve been granted anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the case and it was submitted to Brighton County Court today.

I am being represented by law firm Didlaw and my Barrister is Naomi Cunningham (Chair of Sex Matters). So far they have acted pro bono which I am incredibly grateful for as it has taken a lot of time. The team are confident I have a good case but this is unchartered territory for women’s rights.

Many of you have very kindly offered to be involved and help with gardening. I don’t think I’m allowed to share details on here so please go to my Twitter page http://twitter.com/SarahSurviving/ which has all the info in a pinned post.

Of you’re not on Twitter feel free to send me a DM for more information on how you can help the case. Any publicity you can give the crowd funder would really help.

Thank you everyone.

Sarah x

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RhannionKPSS · 05/09/2022 18:08

Boiledbeetle · 05/09/2022 18:05

@RobinMoiraWhite if you are actually the Robin Moira White then:

how dare you! How dare you come onto this thread.

You have the entirety of the internet to spout whatever you like to whoever you like.

This here is not a space you are welcome in.

You being in it shows the world exactly why Sarah is bringing the case she is bringing.

You are not welcome here. We can't stop you, but know that you inserting yourself into what Sarah had hoped was a safe space is itself a heinous act.

Now we can't stop you, but you should have had the self awareness of how your presence here would be recieived to have done the decent, female thing and stayed the f away.

Never mind that from a legal point of view this looks from the outside something akin to witness intimidation. Is that the look your going for?

we see you Robin. And we'd prefer that we didn't on this thread.

@IamSarah remember we are right there standing right by your side. Gardening as much and for as long as it takes. You are stronger than you know, and you can do this.
Boiled x

Well said !

Robin , go and spout your nonsense elsewhere, you are not welcome here. Your male privilege is showing, just like your bra strap did at Holyrood.

ZandathePanda · 05/09/2022 18:21

Surely that is someone pretending to be Robin? No real barrister would actually do that would they? It’s a ‘live’ case?!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/09/2022 18:25

Unless Robin's well-used Mumsnet account that Robin has referred to on other platforms has been hacked this seems unlikely.

Boiledbeetle · 05/09/2022 18:26

ZandathePanda · 05/09/2022 18:21

Surely that is someone pretending to be Robin? No real barrister would actually do that would they? It’s a ‘live’ case?!

Yeah you have to hope that no real legal bod is so wilfully stupid. I mean imagine thinking as a whatever their job title is hat this would be a good idea.

Insane!

titchy · 05/09/2022 18:26

ZandathePanda · 05/09/2022 18:21

Surely that is someone pretending to be Robin? No real barrister would actually do that would they? It’s a ‘live’ case?!

Oh it's definitely the real one - they're a regular round these parts.

Have you asked your counsel's opinion on RMW's intimidation OP?

IamSarah · 05/09/2022 18:27

Have you asked your counsel's opinion on RMW's intimidation OP?

Yes they are aware of the situation.

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Boiledbeetle · 05/09/2022 18:28

@titchy honestly if it is robin then this has to be classed as witness intimidation

If it walks like a duck and all that.

This is a perfect example of letting a witness know they are seen wherever they go.

ImherewithBoudica · 05/09/2022 18:29

Please don't assist in getting this thread either focused away from the person that needs support or in getting the thread deleted. Either way Sarah loses again.

Boiledbeetle · 05/09/2022 18:30

@IamSarah i wish I could hug you right now.

I am so so sorry they are doing this to you.

Boiled x

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 05/09/2022 18:33

WomaninBoots · 05/09/2022 18:08

Try again.

Sarah, I'm sorry that you're having to deal with such ghastly, unprofessional, intimidating and frankly disgusting behaviour in a place where you have come for support.

All power and strength to you. 💪

Yes and for the second time, having already been deprived of the safety of the women's group at the crisis centre. These lowlife simply will not leave rape victims alone. I could speculate as to the reasons but that's hardly necessary given most people here can see the red flags in glorious technicolour.

That particular poster is a regular fixture on the FWR boards. It's highly likely to be the same person, although appearing on this particular thread is a new low of unprofessionalism. The same kind of behaviour has undone others who sang a similar tune in the past. I watched (with some disbelief) as the whole thing unfolded on Twitter. The perpetrator eventually met her match in a more worthy opponent than she was, and whilst it took the Bar Standards Board far too long to act in disbarring this 'lawyer', act they eventually did.

I wonder whether Bar Standards would be interested in this situation.

titchy · 05/09/2022 18:38

IamSarah · 05/09/2022 18:27

Have you asked your counsel's opinion on RMW's intimidation OP?

Yes they are aware of the situation.

Good to hear. Might be worth archiving the thread...

Floisme · 05/09/2022 18:41

RMW has previous for this kind of behaviour as Allison Bailey can attest:

'Robin, you have chosen to insert yourself into my timeline. It's for you to reflect on the ethics of this. I'm very clear whose judgement I trust.'

Sorry my screenshot attempt hasn't worked but this is the link to the Twitter thread concerned. If anyone else wants to try a screenshot feel free to do so.
twitter.com/bluskyeallison/status/1391455349199212545

Best wishes to you FlowersIamSarah

IamSarah · 05/09/2022 18:44

So RMW is a total liability then?

Well I guess there are positives to having RMW on defence council.

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exwhyzed · 05/09/2022 19:06

IamSarah · 05/09/2022 18:44

So RMW is a total liability then?

Well I guess there are positives to having RMW on defence council.

If defence counsel have any sense they will be trying to mitigate the clusterfuck of what occurred on this thread today by keeping RMW as far away as possible from you from now on.

Chrysanthemum5 · 05/09/2022 19:25

@IamSarah sending you extra hugs and todays posts have encouraged me to go to your garden and do a little digging

WomanWtf · 05/09/2022 20:02

I do hope his comments have been screenshot/archived!

WomanWtf · 05/09/2022 20:06

Oh bother, I used the "wrong" pronoun 🙄

Have reported myself.

Tallisker · 05/09/2022 21:43

Floisme · 05/09/2022 18:41

RMW has previous for this kind of behaviour as Allison Bailey can attest:

'Robin, you have chosen to insert yourself into my timeline. It's for you to reflect on the ethics of this. I'm very clear whose judgement I trust.'

Sorry my screenshot attempt hasn't worked but this is the link to the Twitter thread concerned. If anyone else wants to try a screenshot feel free to do so.
twitter.com/bluskyeallison/status/1391455349199212545

Best wishes to you FlowersIamSarah

That's the one Grin

LaughingPriest · 05/09/2022 23:03

Only just checked up on this thread and i am genuinely flabbergasted at this person's actions. After their comments a year or so ago on here I didn't think I could be more shocked, but here I am. I hope you are screenshotting - the comments I saw before were removed.

I can't imagine a situation where I'd instructed a barrister and would want them to go and argue with the litigant on a public forum, especially one where they had previously been unable to control their comments.

Norma27 · 05/09/2022 23:19

IamSarah · 05/09/2022 18:44

So RMW is a total liability then?

Well I guess there are positives to having RMW on defence council.

Well there are always the delights of Pronouns bundles too! With pronoun as the opposing counsel you cannot lose.

ickky · 05/09/2022 23:52

@RobinMoiraWhite What the hell are you doing? You must know how morally corrupt and unethical it is for you to post on this thread. Do you have any scruples at all?

If you really wanted to set the record straight, the appropriate thread would have been one the many regarding A Baileys case.

@IamSarah I have screenshotted the relevant posts if you want them in PDF. Set up a throwaway email account and I can send them to you.

Really sorry for this continued trauma. Good thing about shit though, it really makes a garden grow. Flowers

Thelnebriati · 06/09/2022 00:09

Relevant pages and posts archived at archive dot ph, just enter the URL in the search box or DM me.

WellIhavecomplained · 06/09/2022 01:46

I've name changed for this post.

So if Robin isn't RobinMoiraWhite I'm sure she'll be able to quickly dispense with the complaint I've just made to the Bar Standards Board.

And if Robin is RobinMoiraWhite then I'm sure she'll have a perfectly good explanation as to why she thought the comments that she made on this thread were totally in keeping with how a decent upstanding member of the profession would behave whilst not bringing her profession into disrepute! And how it wasn't in any way shape or form meant to upset or intimidate the witness. (Given that her initial reason for posting on this thread actually was about something connected to another case that had it's own live thread on here that she could easily have posted on any time over the post few months).

keep on keeping on @IamSarah 🌷🌼🌻🌺🌹🏵🌸

Don't let the bastards grind you down.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 06/09/2022 06:29

Sarah, as ever I support you 100% and I think today is a day for digging on your behalf and keeping this thread focused on you xxx

IamSarah · 06/09/2022 07:35

Thanks so much for the support and gardening. The flowers are looking lovely Flowers

Had a bit of a personal setback yesterday. Got invited to a party with a lot of friends I haven’t seen for ages. Happily accepted and was looking forward to it. Then spotted the man who raped me is on the guest list.

It’s times like this I really, really miss the group at Survivors Network. It was the only place I could share things like this with women who understood.

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