Labour MP for Ealing James Murray "I believe trans women are women"

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Another Labour MP nailing his colours to mast this morning talking on Talk Radio.

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Whilst down in the replies a Tory MP has no hesitation in calling out the ‘bollocks’.

This is going to crucify Labour at the next election, and quite frankly they deserve it.

Now Labour voters have to decide whether they want to be represented by people who are happy to prefer their own theology over science and the law. I don't. I'm out.

I feel like joining. Is it spring madness on my part?

I love it when Julia hangs these people out to dry .
A woman is an adult female and a transwoman is a woman and the Equality acts allows for some exemptions for ........ wait for it...... men who say they're women who are real women as I've just said except for when it comes to exemptions because they're not really... errr ...........

It's very sad to hear supposedly intelligent people trying to pass this off as critical thinking - and devastating not to be able to vote Labour in the face of such misogyny - especially given this awful government (who have enabled this whole mess).

As I said on the other thread about Labour MPs. I’m thinking now that Labour must have been massively paid off to say these things? It’s the only reason I can think of. Not only are they coming out with nonsense they are trying to shut down any questioning. It’s disgraceful how these MPs who should be looking out for their constituents are betraying women and children.

I wonder what the nearly 16% of Muslims in the London Borough of Ealing think about that statement.

The call's definitely gone out at Labour HQ

What, another one?

Interesting to contrast this thread to the other ones covering PMQ today

Gap is widening on the issue, tg

That interview has shown what an absolute pigs ear the EqA is and by extension the GRA.

Favourite moment was when JHB pointed out the veritable misogyny of a man defining what a woman is. I am heartily sick of men telling me what I am and what I am to believe and what I must accept. Just fuck off.

More rubbish from Labour, I'm beginning to believe that they don't want to win the next election. The world has become a very difficult and dangerous place and I don't think Labour could cope with it (not if the collection of airheads piping up recently is anything to go by)

So, hypothetically, he'd have sex with one, assuming he's a heterosexual male? This should be the follow up for all straight men spouting this guff.

Can't decide if he's thick, terrified or lying like he's in a hostage video.

Julia absolutely shreds him.

@IcakethereforeIam

So, hypothetically, he'd have sex with one, assuming he's a heterosexual male? This should be the follow up for all straight men spouting this guff.

Well exactly but I bet it would be a no. As they recognise there's a difference but don't want to upset the woke crowd

@teawamutu

Can't decide if he's thick, terrified or lying like he's in a hostage video.

Julia absolutely shreds him.

I thought it was great 'you can't hold both views in your head at the same time'...oh yes he can because upsidedown world.

The Tories are going to be in it for the long haul now until someone at Labour HQ says 'ENOUGH'.

I left Labour after the Madigan show and they have steadily got more unelectable every month that passes. Fascinating.

What an arse.
I almost felt sorry for him.

@IcakethereforeIam

So, hypothetically, he'd have sex with one, assuming he's a heterosexual male? This should be the follow up for all straight men spouting this guff.

He's gay, but I agree with your sentiment.

He is my MP so you can imagine the woolly responses I get from him when I raise my concerns. I’ll keep doing so just so he can’t pretend his constituents agree with him.

I'm starting to feel a little sorry for these people who draw the short straw and get dragged out to defend Starmer's point of view, even though it makes no sense and makes them look idiotic :)
JHB was brilliant!....

So I just listened to him and his position (as rightly explored by JHB) seems to be: TWAW, and should be included in single-sex spaces by default, except sometimes, because they are not female.

But he seems to misunderstand the single-sex exceptions. If a service says it is using the single-sex exceptions but is going to make the service inclusive of TW, they are not actually using them (obviously). But they are also discriminating against some males who are not TW, because they are letting other males use the service but not them.

What a mess. I'm so tired of the lies.

@SunniDelite

I'm starting to feel a little sorry for these people who draw the short straw and get dragged out to defend Starmer's point of view, even though it makes no sense and makes them look idiotic :) JHB was brilliant!....

I'm not. They could choose to not mouth contemptible lies - and he's a man FFS, no way would he get the treatment Rosie Duffield does.

Labour are dead to me.

Labour are woeful on this issue. They must be haemorrhaging votes.

The Tories know this is the only thing they can win on. And they will go for it. And Labour either get their shit together and act like adults or they can fuck off.

A woman was raped in hospital and then made to beg to be believed for a year. Because of this bullshit ending of any safeguarding

I am going to somewhat out my self here, I live in the Borough of Ealing and I have never bloody heard of him nor seen his face on any of the council emails.