Philogynist: Can we start a new positive word

[Alcoh]

I mean a lot of this is marketing

I see the reasoning but I’d worry it would be twisted or misunderstood to mean Phil in the “philia” sense.

Plenty of womaniser abusers will be glad to call themselves philogynists

No thank you. I'm not to be marketed.

I’m stupid enough that I just think of stamp collecting sorry so it’s not very helpful to me.
You’re absolutely right that it is all just marketing though. Could pro-women do the job? Or anti-sexist?

nope - cos laws are written with the old one.

Facilities and services are designated with the old one.

Woman is taken. We're not the people who need to budge up and find a new word for ourselves.

Mumsnet, I wrote that they would take whatever word we used. Why was that deleted? It’s a simple statement of fact. They have taken the word woman and are now taking female. Words like mother are replaced by ‘birthing parent’ etc.

Are we supposed to pretend ‘TWAW’ is a political phenomenon that hasn’t happened? Why would we need to do that? Who’d benefit from it? What’s wrong with fact? We’re all entitled to our own opinions, but not yet to our own facts, surely?

Language to do with women has been erased, stigmatised, taken over and used against us (women). That’s what people are purposely doing when they say ‘transwomen ARE women’ etc. They’re redefining (for them) what woman means with those words. They want everyone else to adhere to that redefinition too, which is why they are saying it. If the word ‘woman’ already meant ‘anyone’, then obviously there’d be no need for a slogan to restate what they think ‘woman’ should mean..

@Slothtoes

Are we supposed to pretend ‘TWAW’ is a political phenomenon that hasn’t happened? Why would we need to do that? Who’d benefit from it? What’s wrong with fact? We’re all entitled to our own opinions, but not yet to our own facts, surely?

Language to do with women has been erased, stigmatised, taken over and used against us (women). That’s what people are purposely doing when they say ‘transwomen ARE women’ etc. They’re redefining (for them) what woman means with those words. They want everyone else to adhere to that redefinition too, which is why they are saying it. If the word ‘woman’ already meant ‘anyone’, then obviously there’d be no need for a slogan to restate what they think ‘woman’ should mean..

This.