Eddie Izzard plays a man in Close To You

[Olliphant]

I was watching a new Netflix show and up pops Izzard playing a man. I thought Edd was now to be known as female? Eddie obviously sees being a woman as a costume that can be taken off. Shame the rest of the female population can't do that.

Stay Close?

Izzard is allowed to take whatever acting jobs they get offered. It's not really a strong argument- if anything is about gender not sex, acting can be said to be. Would it be better if they were taking women's roles?

They say they are gender fluid so will be both male and female when it suits them

Yes sorry Stay Close.
I am not arguing anything. I am annoyed. You are either female or you are not. Like Kaitlen Jenner still playing golf with the men.

@PermanentTemporary

Izzard is allowed to take whatever acting jobs they get offered. It's not really a strong argument- if anything is about gender not sex, acting can be said to be. Would it be better if they were taking women's roles?

Eddie isn’t a man though is he? We all know he’s a brave and stunning woman. Eddie Redmayne is still saying nightly TWAW because he dared to play a transwoman character, it’s appropriation to pretend to be something you’re not. Or does that only work the other way round? www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59373295.amp

It's ok, transpeople can play women, men, transwomen and transmen. Everyone else has to stay in their boxes.

It's called having your cake and eating it too. At some point Eddie is planning to stand as an MP probably identifying as a woman using an all women's shortlist.

See this hideous piece of misogyny. Older women are just like older men according to Eddie which is frankly delusional and self serving.

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/eddie-izzard-politics-labour-b1816259.html

Elsewhere in the interview, Izzard said that it is “easier” to be a trans woman now that she is older, stating: “Visually, there’s not so much difference between older men and older women, so it does get easier.”

What a misogynistic force for oppression he is.

On a side note I'm very fucking annoyed he's in the latest Harlen Coben adaption because I rather like watching them but I don't think I can bear to watch Eddie doing his male actor thing for financial gain knowing he'll probably stand as an MP claiming he's a woman for that purpose.

@Olliphant

Yes sorry Stay Close. I am not arguing anything. I am annoyed. You are either female or you are not. Like Kaitlen Jenner still playing golf with the men.

Well it proves that a man can still use his privileges even when he's a "woman" so will NEVER know or understand how it is to be a woman

@Olliphant

Yes sorry Stay Close. I am not arguing anything. I am annoyed. You are either female or you are not. Like Kaitlen Jenner still playing golf with the men.

I thought GCs didn't want trans women to compete with women?

He is utterly messed up by the early death of his own mother. So much going on there.

Eddie is a man who chooses to be a woman when it suits him - which as everyone know is simply a case of wearing lipstick and a skirt.

I’m not sure I agree with EI about the visuals evening out with age for both sexes: women don’t go bald, for a start.

But if your idea of physical appearance is all makeup and wigs, which it will be for actors and TW alike, then I see where he or she’s coming from.

Quite odd to say old women look like old men tho’ - and not wildly polite or respectful.

Caitlyn Jenner doesn’t think trans women should play sport against natal women. Which is logical.

In regards to Izzard, this recent thread should be of interest to you, OP

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4443809-Eddie-Izzard-has-he-reverted-back-to-male-ID

@Scraggythang

Caitlyn Jenner doesn’t think trans women should play sport against natal women. Which is logical.

Jenner - who was a true world-class athlete - is 100% right on that. In Jenner's case it's accepting 'women of the year' type awards which is irritating (to say the least).

As to whether EI is now visually a convincing woman ... well, hopefully that means an end to the silly 'girl mode' thing, but I'm very sceptical whether he'll ever be offered a female role. (Unless, perhaps, it's a supposedly comedic performance, like David Suchet's ill-advised Lady Bracknell. )

@ErrolTheDragon oh, total agreement on that. Jenner is certainly no saint. But as far as OP’s assertion about them still playing golf with men, well, that’s something that most of us will agree is a good and fair decision.

@Skeumorph

He is utterly messed up by the early death of his own mother. So much going on there.

Funny how lots of people lose their mother in childhood and don't become transgender.

But of course since you're clearly a professional therapist who's worked with Eddie personally (since no one else would be qualified to make such a claim), we must defer to your knowledge

@Scraggythang thanks for this link.
Also, I noted KJ plays golf with blokes as another example of a male bodied person who professes ro be female, but still being male when it suits them. KJ plays golf with males because he wants to, not because he is fair. (I.m.o)

Eddie should only play characters who are sometimes "girls" and sometimes grizzled old men and the characters' fluidic changes have to coincide with Eddie's own.

Isn't it currently horribly transphobic to suggest someone can "become transgender"? Isn't it now meant to be utterly innate, obvious from the age of 3 etc etc.
I know the doctrine changes frequently but I thought that was where we were now?

You mean the REAL female population - not these deluded men.

I realise this thread is a bit stale, but, as it's popped up, if EI in a male role was nominated for an award, which acting category would it be in? It'd be horribly transphobic to nominate him for a male award wouldn't it?

I'm guessing what will eventually happen is that awards will be renamed to 'best performer in a masculine role' or something like that.