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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jeremy Vine praised Nolan Stonewall podcast

15 replies

Mollyollydolly · 25/11/2021 16:45

This is good news.
I don't for a minute believe he wasn't aware of the issues but never put his head above the parapet.
Took him long enough to listen to it ffs.
Let's hope it's discussed on his show.
Many positive replies.
And I love to think how pissed off OJ will be.
Backbones being found now they feel it's a bit safer.
Grrrr.

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Mollyollydolly · 25/11/2021 16:47

For some reason I cant post an image of his tweet .. he says

Astonishing & important podcast by ⁦
@StephenNolan
⁩ investigating the way ⁦
@stonewalluk
⁩ got immense leverage inside the BBC. Full of respect for Stephen for tackling an issue which has clearly made his employer very uncomfortable

Jeremy Vine praised Nolan Stonewall podcast
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PurpleDaisies · 25/11/2021 16:48

I’ve been listening to this on my daily walk. It’s utterly shocking. Definitely worth checking out.

pickingdaisies · 25/11/2021 16:51

He took his time, but this is very good news.

Chrysanthemum5 · 25/11/2021 16:53

Maybe now he'll stop his 'special, extra gentle,eta all just be kind, don't know what these feminists are complaining about' voice that he uses when he covers this on his show

ArabellaScott · 25/11/2021 17:05

Good. Welcome, Jeremy.

Datun · 25/11/2021 17:13

Finally found his spine. Oh well, I suppose it's all good

RedDogsBeg · 25/11/2021 17:13

You are more forgiving than me Arabella. I doubt he has had a Damascene conversion his only concern is the influence Stonewall wielded over the BBC, I bet he is still a fully paid up member of the TWAW club dismissing any and every concern women have as being unkind.

BoreOfWhabylon · 25/11/2021 17:15

Wow! To be fair, he was probably locked into the #BeKind without think further, like so many others.

BoreOfWhabylon · 25/11/2021 17:33

*thinking

FreeBritnee · 25/11/2021 17:36

Good for him.

LonginesPrime · 25/11/2021 17:39

I don't for a minute believe he wasn't aware of the issues but never put his head above the parapet.
Took him long enough to listen to it ffs.

Or he wanted to wait until the BBC officially left the Stonewall schemes and had addressed the internal backlash to see which way the wind was going to blow before saying something.

BettyFilous · 25/11/2021 18:05

Golden bridges, FWRers, golden bridges…

(I’m having to channel every ounce of mindfulness here. 🤐)

DidoDino · 25/11/2021 18:28

I don't know. He's like a walking tabloid & has just scented the latest scandal brewing. Sniff sniff oh goody, juicy outrage.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 25/11/2021 19:14

@BettyFilous

Golden bridges, FWRers, golden bridges…

(I’m having to channel every ounce of mindfulness here. 🤐)

Set it to music, imagine a golden bridge over an idyllic babbling brook leading into a winding stream taking us all towards a better future.

Pushed that to breaking point but it's emphatically golden bridge and 'support the coolers' time. I acknowledge that, in the case, Vine does have a substantial audience and people whom he might influence on the topic of gender identity ideology.

Goffman observed that all “marks” eventually come to understand that they have been defrauded. But strangely, they almost never complain or report the crime to the authorities. Why? Because, Goffman argues, admitting that you have been conned is so deeply shameful that “marks” experience it as a kind of social death – the painful end of one of the many social roles we all play.

Within those groups, we can pinpoint influential members who may be turning their backs on Covid denialism, and encourage them in their journey. We can message them offering support, particularly if our reference groups overlap – whether that means sharing the same home town, or practising the same faith. The more shared social space, the better. We might offer to back them up if they get trolled for expressing misgivings about Covid denialism. Or we could let them know that we would admire them for telling the truth.

Those people may not have a television audience of millions, but they nonetheless have the potential to act as “coolers” for those in their reference groups – both online and off. The higher their status within the groups, the more influence they will have in reconciling their fellow travellers to the reality of the pandemic, perhaps enabling them to rejoin society, or at least preventing them from endangering the rest of us.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/09/convince-anti-vaxxers

TheMarzipanDildo · 25/11/2021 23:47

@BoreOfWhabylon

Wow! To be fair, he was probably locked into the #BeKind without think further, like so many others.
Yes, I think this is probably true. I know he’s a walking tabloid but I think he does want to be ‘on the right side’. Which is understandable human behaviour.

Better late than never.

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