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Rapists in women's prisons - looking for links

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ComprehensiveTea · 02/10/2021 11:37

Hi,

Can anybody point me to links to reports/ stories that confirm that if a man identifies at a women, either they are indeed housed in women's prisons, or politicians do argue that they should be?
I think a female politician argued for something along these lines faily recently, but my mind is (shamefully) drawing a blank.

Thanks in advance!

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 02/10/2021 11:49

What did you look for in Advanced Search or via Google? For a search engine put this in the search box or bar:

site:mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights

and then put in the search terms that interest you.

EdgeOfACoin · 02/10/2021 11:52

Are you thinking of Lisa Nandy and Julia Long's question to her? That was cringeworthy.

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 02/10/2021 11:54

Plenty on Keep Prisons Single Sex’s new site, kpssinfo.org

ComprehensiveTea · 02/10/2021 11:56

@EdgeOfACoin

Are you thinking of Lisa Nandy and Julia Long's question to her? That was cringeworthy.
Very probably - thanks. Now that I have a name, I can do a proper search.
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ComprehensiveTea · 02/10/2021 12:21

@EmpressWitchDoesntBurn

Plenty on Keep Prisons Single Sex’s new site, kpssinfo.org
Oh, yeah - thanks, that's a really good resource.
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Lilyofthevalleys · 02/10/2021 12:26

Tonia Antoniazzi MP did raise some of the issues around crime recording and sex vs gender in this speech

Thelnebriati · 02/10/2021 12:37

Data from a variety of official sources including MOJ in this article;
www.womenarehuman.com/transgender-inmates-are-raping-female-prisons-at-a-shocking-rate-ministry-of-justice-reveals/

Karen White was placed in a women's psychiatric ward and then a women's prison despite the fact he does not have a GRC and so is legally male;
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/11/transgender-prisoner-who-sexually-assaulted-inmates-jailed-for-life

NecessaryScene · 02/10/2021 12:39

Upcoming related WPUK event:

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/a-womans-place-is-not-in-prison-tickets-172327715837

Thelnebriati · 02/10/2021 12:41

''Lisa Nandy reignites Labour trans rights row as leadership contender says male child rapists who transition to become women should be allowed to serve their sentences in female-only prisons if they 'choose' to''
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8012193/Labour-trans-rights-row-Lisa-Nandy-says-rapists-transition-sent-womens-prisons.html

Thelnebriati · 02/10/2021 12:42

''Despite this, the judgment decided that the Ministry of Justice (MoJ) policy on the placement of male transgender prisoners is lawful and that male transgender prisoners convicted of sex offences can be accommodated in the women’s estate.
It also accepted that the policy puts women at potential greater risk''
womansplaceuk.org/2021/07/07/womens-prisons-male-transgender-prisoners/

ComprehensiveTea · 02/10/2021 14:02

[quote Thelnebriati]''Despite this, the judgment decided that the Ministry of Justice (MoJ) policy on the placement of male transgender prisoners is lawful and that male transgender prisoners convicted of sex offences can be accommodated in the women’s estate.
It also accepted that the policy puts women at potential greater risk''
womansplaceuk.org/2021/07/07/womens-prisons-male-transgender-prisoners/[/quote]
Thank you - I was thinking about that, but couldn't remember the specifics.

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