Debbie Hayton in the Spectator on Starmer and Davey

[DisappearingGirl]

I thought this was a great article

www.spectator.co.uk/article/no-keir-trans-women-like-me-do-not-have-cervixes

Yes, it was really good. You can feel Debbie is begining to realise this is really very serious.

Yes I'm glad DH pointed out the copy-and-paste MP response "trans are the most marginalized..." and pointed out, well the entire labour party are bending over backwards for the trans lobby so how marginalized is that exactly? (Paraphrase).

When asked about women the politicians start talking about men it's so blatant. Transmen are forgotten in this debate.
But when you have mantras like transwomen are women it just makes it all ridiculous. Transwomen are transwomen would prevent all these discussions over definitions.

Good for the Spectator but would she be allowed to post all that elsewhere, say on mumsnet, or to say it on the BBC?

Starmer keeps on piously repeating 'the trans community' - makes my hackles rise. I can't remember whether Davey does the same thing. I expect he does.