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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Debbie Hayton in the Spectator on Starmer and Davey

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DisappearingGirl · 28/09/2021 12:52

I thought this was a great article

www.spectator.co.uk/article/no-keir-trans-women-like-me-do-not-have-cervixes

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Fariha31 · 28/09/2021 13:16

Yes, it was really good. You can feel Debbie is begining to realise this is really very serious.

Gncq · 28/09/2021 13:42

Yes I'm glad DH pointed out the copy-and-paste MP response "trans are the most marginalized..." and pointed out, well the entire labour party are bending over backwards for the trans lobby so how marginalized is that exactly? (Paraphrase).

FemaleAndLearning · 28/09/2021 14:00

When asked about women the politicians start talking about men it's so blatant. Transmen are forgotten in this debate.
But when you have mantras like transwomen are women it just makes it all ridiculous. Transwomen are transwomen would prevent all these discussions over definitions.

Abitofalark · 28/09/2021 14:18

Good for the Spectator but would she be allowed to post all that elsewhere, say on mumsnet, or to say it on the BBC?

Starmer keeps on piously repeating 'the trans community' - makes my hackles rise. I can't remember whether Davey does the same thing. I expect he does.

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