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Helen Joyce Trans - number 1 on UK kindle

29 replies

Blackandwhitehorse · 27/09/2021 19:53

Just that, some good news - the more people read this the better.

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WarriorN · 27/09/2021 19:57

It's faaaabulouuuus!

Gncq · 27/09/2021 20:04

Huh.
That's a surprise. A good one.

teawamutu · 27/09/2021 21:55

I'm delighted - just wish I'd known last week when I bought it full price.

Hopefully she'll get more money that way, I spose.

littlbrowndog · 27/09/2021 21:56

💪💪

Jaysmith71 · 27/09/2021 21:57

She'll get Spotify-sized royalties of franctions of a penny for each 99p sale, but pusing it to No.1 will generate more sales in itself.

(And I'm still up for a revised second edition paperback, post-Olympics etc.)

Franca123 · 27/09/2021 22:16

Hopefully some of the Labour front bench bought a copy

Blackandwhitehorse · 27/09/2021 22:19

Wonder how sales compare to the Shon Faye book, less favourably it seems.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 27/09/2021 22:37

It's such a good read and good to see it getting the recognition it deserves.

AnotherLass · 27/09/2021 22:48

Number one in non-fiction books as well. Awesome!

I read Faye's book. It's basically a long list of dodgy stats about how downtrodden trans people are, a lot of which are referenced to media articles. The whole thing is just emotional blackmail really.

Joolsin · 27/09/2021 23:05

Great news. I actually bought a second book copy yesterday, don't have a kindle. I saw the faye book on the bestseller shelf, no sign of Helen's book and that's why I decided to buy another copy. The teller trotted off no problem to get it for me when I asked.

Whitefire · 27/09/2021 23:10

@AnotherLass

Number one in non-fiction books as well. Awesome!

I read Faye's book. It's basically a long list of dodgy stats about how downtrodden trans people are, a lot of which are referenced to media articles. The whole thing is just emotional blackmail really.

I will happily buy Shon's book if that too comes down to 99p / £1.99 on Google (don't do Amazon), I think it is important for balance.
EishetChayil · 27/09/2021 23:12

I read Shon Faye's book "for balance."

Imagine an elephant on one end of a seesaw, and a feather on the other. The elephant is Joyce and the feather is Faye.

Just absolute twaddle from start to finish. Don't bother!

Blackandwhitehorse · 28/09/2021 07:32

I feel like I should read it for balance, but then I have seen the reviews and I don’t want to waste my money or add to Shon’s sales! Maybe I will try to get it second hand.

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Thumpsquids · 28/09/2021 07:38

I smell a Joe Rogan Podcast appearance coming!

SelfPortraitWithEels · 28/09/2021 07:44

I feel like I should read it for balance, but then I have seen the reviews and I don’t want to waste my money or add to Shon’s sales!

Exactly how I felt - bit the bullet and coughed up for it but only managed to get through it by writing increasingly irritable notes in the margin. My favourite bit was when Faye explained that feminism was pointless and impossible. Or was it when Faye said that there were plenty of other ways to define "woman" that didn't rely on biological essentialism but didn't volunteer a single one...? Ugh.

Great news about Helen Joyce's book!

Waitwhat23 · 28/09/2021 07:45

Shon Faye of 'enjoy your erasure' tweet fame?

Sophoclesthefox · 28/09/2021 07:52

Good on you, Helen!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/09/2021 08:55

Shon Faye isn't nearly as clever as Shon Faye thinks Shon Faye is.

Jaysmith71 · 28/09/2021 09:29

SF hanging in there at No.25 in the LGBT section on Amazon, Pop Pickers.

Theendoftheworldisnigh · 28/09/2021 09:40

Wow - I've just checked Trans on my special spying App and it's selling this number of Kindle copies per month (presumably a 1 month phenomenon):
Est. Mo. Sales:
16,473
That's massive.
It's also selling 603 hardback copies.

teawamutu · 28/09/2021 13:14

@Theendoftheworldisnigh

Wow - I've just checked Trans on my special spying App and it's selling this number of Kindle copies per month (presumably a 1 month phenomenon): Est. Mo. Sales: 16,473 That's massive. It's also selling 603 hardback copies.
How about dear Shon?
Theendoftheworldisnigh · 28/09/2021 14:10

The Transgender Issue by Shon Faye:
Kindle: Est. Mo. Sales:
128
Hardcover:
Est. Mo. Sales:
700
Those are very good results, as the book isn't on special offer, but of course it's the hot topic of the moment.

teawamutu · 28/09/2021 14:19

Thanks! Very interesting. More so than the book, if reviews are reliable...

Chocaholic9 · 28/09/2021 14:24

Thanks for posting. I just bought a copy.

Blackandwhitehorse · 28/09/2021 16:30

Interesting as I see the Shon Faye book pushed by book stores and celebrities with big followers. The Helen Joyce book I only heard about really via here.

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