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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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secular111 · 04/09/2021 21:44

I think The Guardian, if it doesn't sink in the coming week, News of the World-style, it is certainly holed below the waterline and, thanks to Viner and LOJ in particular, looks doomed. I don't reckon it can easily recover from its efforts to promote the 'Wi Spa hoax' hoax, and if anything LOJ seems intent on doubling-down and magnifying the damage being inflicted.

The weight of all-out SM condemnation of The Guardian for its now horribly-exposed efforts to try to pull the wool over the eyes of its own readers and subscribers about the Wi Spa scandal is growing exponentially.

And worse, sporting a copy of The Guardian is going to provoke the 'best check your hard drive' comments from now on, as the newspaper has committed itself to fully supporting white sex offenders, whilst it goes out of its way to disbelieve the five complainants - all of whom were Black women.

Some examples;

Katie Herzog about The Guardian - Twitter

Malcolm Clark about The Guardian - Twitter

Julie Bindel about The Guardian - Twitter

The Guardians own Twitter

Andy Ngo, who exposed the efforts by The Guardian to promote the hoax story that the Wi Spa crime was fake

Allison Bailey about The Guardian - Twitter

And that's just a fraction of the condemnation that can be easily found. The follow-up of course will be the essays and articles in Spiked, The Spectator, Telegraph, The Times...

And tomorrow glinner will be releasing his 'The Mess We're In Special' with The Guardian being a key focus.

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PurgatoryOfPotholes · 05/09/2021 17:56

To be fair, I think the vast majority of people do want to exclude sex offenders who prey on children, CorrBlimey.

I just don't think the Guardian has linked itself inextricably to sex offenders who prey on children to the public at large, because most people will be unaware of that article that demonised the complainants in the spa.

LadyFuHao · 05/09/2021 17:59

Untrue. Most people support safeguarding women and children.

OldCrone · 05/09/2021 18:04

@CorrBlimeyGG

You don't seem to realise how few people have an issue with trans rights. The vast majority of people want everyone to live and let live, we don't seek to exclude and segregate as you do secular.
Has anyone here said they have an 'issue with trans rights'? I think most people here believe that trans people should have the same human rights as everyone else, which they already do in the UK.

What do you mean by 'exclude and segregate'? Do you believe that single sex spaces shouldn't exist?

secular111 · 05/09/2021 18:08

@CorrBlimeyGG

You don't seem to realise how few people have an issue with trans rights. The vast majority of people want everyone to live and let live, we don't seek to exclude and segregate as you do secular.
Where did I say exclude or segregate?
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Aparallaxia · 05/09/2021 18:23

I looked up "Preference falsification", Embarrassing, on amazon to see if is available in Kindle, but didn't specify under "Books", and the first results were dozens of L'Oreal 'Superior Preference' home hair dyes. Just for a split second I thought someone was having a larf.

Aparallaxia · 05/09/2021 18:26

CorrBlimey If you mean 'making sure we exclude pervs from women's and girls' spaces' then I am pretty sure most people would be in favour, and those who wouldn't, should have their hard drives examined.

jugglingduty · 05/09/2021 19:26

Corr, I bloody dare you to go around asking: "Do you think that men who identify as women (but still have penises and male bodies) should automatically be allowed to use girls and women's changing rooms, toilets and refuges, and be locked in cells with women in prisons when they commit a crime?"

I would be genuinely astounded if you had anyone say "ooh yes definitely, wouldn't want to exclude anyone".

Theeyeballsinthesky · 05/09/2021 22:01

I’m sure that Corr will be back to tell us any second what rights trans ppl don’t have in the UK….

Any second….

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