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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Morgan Oger has influence at the UN - call to action

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ScreamingMeMe · 27/07/2021 06:34

Latest from Glinner. Very scary that someone who tried to defund a rape crisis centre has such influence.

"A chill ran up my spine when Aaron pointed out that Oger is trying to push through gender identity ideology at the UN. We only have till August 1 to tell the UN how dangerous Oger’s proposals are to women and children. You can contact the UN here.

You can write as long or as short as you wish. The important thing is to mention ONE country in your communication and mention specific cases (as many as you wish), with names and dates if possible. God knows, there are enough examples on this site alone.

Thanks again to Aaron and I’ll be speaking to him again along with some of Oger’s other targets soon."

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/aaron-kimberley-is-standing-up-to

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Jorriss · 27/07/2021 07:44

Bump

AnyOldPrion · 27/07/2021 08:04

The first twenty minutes is about medicalisation and Aaron’s experiences on both sides of the medical model for transitioning. For those who want to hear the specific sections on different aspects:

About the backlash (including first mention of Oger) from 22 minutes.

More specific on Oger from 28 minutes.

UN call (comes from Graham more than Aaron) in the last 4 minutes.

There is a lot more information about submissions in the link Graham has provided, which I will attach below.

www.unwomen.org/en/csw/communications-procedure?fbclid=IwAR3HyJKQyyBTpaTtN5Qn8XBE6UOaRUrau6K3t7Z7zQPwVmh2U8e8uGA9kRY

OldCrone · 27/07/2021 10:22

A chill ran up my spine when Aaron pointed out that Oger is trying to push through gender identity ideology at the UN. We only have till August 1 to tell the UN how dangerous Oger’s proposals are to women and children. You can contact the UN here.

Do you have any more information about what Oger's proposals are? Are they published somewhere on the UNwomen site? Or anywhere else?

dyslek · 27/07/2021 10:26

How? I mean just how? does this person have influence at the UN ffs?
A nobody, who abused and conned his own family out of money, has he ever even had a job?
How many intelegent, learned people in the world are trying to have influence at the UN with little to no success, yet this person?
What does he have on people?

ValancyRedfern · 27/07/2021 10:47

I found this twitter thread very useful for how to respond to the UN women's consultation. Deadline 1st August.

mobile.twitter.com/MsGiveZeroFox/status/1417787135877320704

OldCrone · 27/07/2021 11:03

Thanks for that link ValancyRedfern.

So what they need to know is how gender identity ideology is undermining women's rights. Any examples. There are plenty.

We don't need to know specifically what Oger's proposals are or how much influence this person really has.

Imnobody4 · 27/07/2021 11:04

Here’s a submission from WHRC in Australia, which might be helpful.

www.womensdeclaration.com/documents/199/UN_Status_for_Women_Submiss
I hate doing this sort of thing at short notice. Will definately focus on prisons because of the latest court case and issues around inclusive language eradicating women particularly in reproduction and surragacy.

OldCrone · 27/07/2021 11:33

@Imnobody4

Here’s a submission from WHRC in Australia, which might be helpful.

www.womensdeclaration.com/documents/199/UN_Status_for_Women_Submiss
I hate doing this sort of thing at short notice. Will definately focus on prisons because of the latest court case and issues around inclusive language eradicating women particularly in reproduction and surragacy.

That link didn't work for me. I think this one should work.

www.womensdeclaration.com/documents/199/UN_Status_for_Women_Submission.pdf

ScreamingMeMe · 27/07/2021 11:41

Thanks, all!

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GNCQ · 27/07/2021 12:47

This is really important thanks so much for sharing

Nachthex · 27/07/2021 21:48

I haven't found this an easy one (too much stuff to shoehorn in) but it's vital that as many of us as possible complete this. And why the fuck is Ogre having any influence whatsoever at the UN?

Anotheruser02 · 27/07/2021 23:39

I have sent my email, I figure that so many people will respond that my one case example and general feeling will be enough as many more will have their examples and other fears voiced. Keep prisons single sex site has great case studies.

Olderbadger1 · 28/07/2021 00:04

Thanks for the alert OP - and thanks to others for the useful links. Knowing that Morgan O is involved (how the hell did they get to be influential at UN level FFS) makes it even more crucial that we submit responses.

quixote9 · 28/07/2021 09:12

submitted an email, specific country, specific instance. I suspect they just have an underling counting up replies and ticking a box, "for," "against," so I tried to keep it short.

(Be nice if afterward your email program lit up like a fruit machine, some music played, and the message flashed up, "You have hit the jackpot! We will now actually DO something good!" ... Oh well.)

highame · 28/07/2021 12:30

Some time ago I read a piece and it was clear that Stonewall were very interested in 'women' and the UN. I assume that SW and many other groups are submitting to include anyone identifying as a woman to be included in any UN actions. This is a bump because I need to submit something. Mind is bank at the minute but am going to give it some thought

ValancyRedfern · 28/07/2021 14:35

This is really important I think. The LSE situation is a clear example to use. Lots on the twitter thread I linked earlier. Bumping to remind myself as well as others. We need to make our voices heard.

AlfonsoTheMango · 28/07/2021 14:38

Thanks for flagging this up. The idea that the dreadful Oger is involved in this is appalling but not surprising.

FindTheTruth · 28/07/2021 16:29

I found this a useful resource in understanding the Morgane Oger UN facts, and pulling together a message to the UN
www.gdalliancecanada.com/post/targeted-harassment

Anotheruser02 · 29/07/2021 20:24

Bumpity bump. Two days.

ShangaLangCleg · 29/07/2021 23:00

WTAF is going on in the planet these days? Have we been subjected to an alien invasion, because I know of no good reason why Oger should even have involvement in anything at all that would have an impact upon women and children. How does MO have input to the UN anyway?

Imnobody4 · 30/07/2021 11:00

Bump

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 30/07/2021 11:24

bump. I used a fair bit of material from the keep prisons single sex website and urged the UN to intervene with the UK government to make prisons single sex in the UK

highame · 30/07/2021 13:35

There wont be an institution anywhere that isn't going to be affected. The UN will find it very difficult to remain neutral if the US decides TWAW but maybe that's a step too far even for them. This is another bump really. Still unsure what to write but feel western cultures should not be inflicting a reduction on women's rights on those countries who already feel women are not 'worthy of respect'

HatefulHaberdashery · 31/07/2021 22:07

Initiatives led by Gender extremists have had the practical impact of limiting the enjoyment of female human rights (incl. sexual & reproductive rights) e.g. gender neutral language for sex specific cancers, and using dehumanising language such as “birthing parent” for mothers, and health initiatives referring to “birthing bodies”, and maternity services referred to as perinatal services, etc.

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