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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Great article in Speccie Aus: Why should women tolerate big swinging dicks?

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Clymene · 18/07/2021 13:58

www.spectator.com.au/2021/07/why-should-women-tolerate-the-big-swinging-dicks-of-the-transgender-movement/?fbclid=IwAR0OFu84ndkoR5JaeJj7035O7A8KswbssuCf7o67URK93i_KpGcJD6MkCe8

This is so clear. I don't know who Edie Wyatt is but she's a great writer.

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AdaFuckingShelby · 18/07/2021 14:12

Thanks for sharing, she is very articulate. I fail to understand why the match of the twaw movement continues at such a pace when we have sucjarticles published that so clearly state the issues.
Oh, wait, yes I forgot the world is run by misogynists.

TheSlayer · 18/07/2021 14:43

Wow. what a great article.

ArtemesiaK · 18/07/2021 14:54

Wow! Go, Edie!

FemaleAndLearning · 18/07/2021 14:58

Good article covers a lot. She also has a website and has written more blogs on here ediewyatt.com/

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 18/07/2021 16:57

That is a brilliant article. I have been thinking about this bit all afternoon while cleaning my car (makes me non binary, no?):

When a man asked [Laurie] Penny about his daughter, who would be too traumatised to undress in front of a male-bodied person, and already has to endure the hypersexualisation of her body by society, Penny replied that his daughter’s need for same-sex spaces, might not be able to be balanced against “a trans women’s right to be included in public spaces to be free from harassment”.

Laurie Penny calls herself a feminist and prioritises a male's 'rights' over a girl's rights. It's astonishing.

Why? It's so clearly nonsensical, so how is she bending her brain to think she's in the right? It would be an interesting question if she weren't at the vanguard of destroying women's rights.

StandWithYou · 18/07/2021 17:34

Amazing article - expresses it so clearly. I feel that I am living in an alternative reality.

334bu · 18/07/2021 17:40

Great article . Thank you for posting

BeansMeansBeans · 18/07/2021 20:13

She's written another great article here too quillette.com/2020/12/07/my-white-privilege-didnt-save-me-but-god-did/

ScrollingLeaves · 18/07/2021 21:25

It is a brilliant and eloquently written article. Thank you for posting it.

NiceGerbil · 18/07/2021 21:25

YY a good read and her sharing her experience of CSA was very brave and affecting.

A small comment though that cross dressing in sex offenders is a common paraphilia and I'm not sure the connection with AGP is universal.

What is true is that men committing sex offences wearing clothes generally worn by women is very common irrespective of the individual psychology of the man.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 18/07/2021 21:32

Thanks for the second article. what an amazing woman

The postmodern re-engineering of left-wing political theory has included the redefinition of “privilege” in a way that is separate from economics, a definition of “sex” that is separate from biology, and a definition of “violence” that does not involve actual violence

god, ain't that the truth?

NotBadConsidering · 19/07/2021 05:19

That’s a brilliant article.

NeonDreams · 19/07/2021 16:30

The problem is it is written in The Spectator. It's a far right magazine with limited readership and is not in the publications it needs to be in, to have an impact.

BeansMeansBeans · 19/07/2021 17:55

@NeonDreams the spectator really isn't far right... And, well which left wing newspaper would publish it?

NeonDreams · 19/07/2021 19:38

@BeansMeansBeans The Australian version of The Spectator is.

Clymene · 19/07/2021 20:06

@NeonDreams

The problem is it is written in The Spectator. It's a far right magazine with limited readership and is not in the publications it needs to be in, to have an impact.
The Spectator is not far right. It's run by Andrew Neill, the same as it in the U.K. Right wing sure, but not far right.

I'm still heartbroken that the Left has completely abandoned half the population. I knew there was a lot of misogyny on the Left, I just didn't realise how much women are absolutely loathed and othered as not quite human by so many 'decent' men. It's been quite an eye opener

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MarshmallowSwede · 19/07/2021 20:24

In the early days of the men’s rights movement, they did say they were willing to go to great lengths to “get women back in the kitchen” and to put women “back in our place”. I firmly believe that the tra and mra Movements are closely aligned in that they want unlimited access to women, women to have to defer to men in all aspects of public and private life, and for women to have less recourse to report abuse from men (sexual, physical) lest we be labeled phobic etc. less able to leave abusive marriages etc.

They are pretty much working for the same goal. Women a second class citizens with even less rights than men no matter how they identify and no right to say no to a man ever. Sexual access to women and girls is high up on the priority list for both groups. Preventing women from being able to say no to our boundaries being violated is high up on the prio list (govt forcing women to have sexual with incels anyone?). Forced marriage and assigned partners for western women- lesbian women being forced to accept male bodied “women” for relationships. If you read what it is mra and tra want it’s scarily similar.

Different side of the same coin.

I think we underestimated the lengths they were willing to go to. It might sound very conspiracy theory, but what other reason would they be telling women and girls to get used to men in our spaces or stay home. Because that’s pretty much what is being said to us.

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