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Nehandra rocks! (And Billy Bragg is another huge disappointment)

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33feethighandrising · 23/06/2021 09:29

Love Nehandra. Here's her new cover of Billy Braggs's A New England. Spot on.

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33feethighandrising · 23/06/2021 09:30

Lyrics for those of you who can't play the music out loud right now:

New England/New Meaning (Billy Bragg Cover)

He was 21 years when he wrote this song,
He's 62 but he won't be for long,
People ask him when will he grow up to be a man,
Cause he keeps tweeting 'bout some shit he doesn't really understand,

I loved you then,
I don't love you still,
Cause you put them on a pedestal,
It left me with a chill,

I don't feel bad about letting you know,
I just feel sad about letting you go...

We don't want men in our sports,
We're not looking for a new meaning,
We're just looking for a safer world,

We don't want men in our sports,
We're not looking for a new meaning,
We're just looking for a safer world,

I loved the words you wrote back then,
But that was bloody years ago,
We can't survive if you disappoint,
Everytime you need woke points,

I saw two articles last night,
I wished that they weren't true,
But that was only half of it,
It's wrong to give away our rights,

I wish I wish I wish you cared...

We don't want men in our sports,
We're not looking for a new meaning,
We're just looking for a safer world,

We don't want men in our sports,
We're not looking for a new meaning,
We're just looking for a safer world,

Looking for a safer world....

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RummidgeGeneral · 23/06/2021 13:07

Yes, what a bloody disappointment he is. If my sixteen year old self knew what I know now ...

donquixotedelamancha · 23/06/2021 16:22

Wonderfull.

bellinisurge · 23/06/2021 16:24

She's so wonderful, isn't she?

BiggerBoat1 · 23/06/2021 16:24

This has reminded me how much I bloody love Billy Bragg. Off to play his songs very loud. Thank you

mollythemeerkat · 23/06/2021 16:33

Billy has been on the woke trail for a while now and has a somewhat (in my view), misplaced faith in the Labour Party. Loved the song - heard the music in my head as I read the words.

Helmetbymidnight · 23/06/2021 17:18

ha!

i used to really like billy bragg too but hes insufferable on this- zero interest in womens point of view.

nehandra is fab

AssassinatedBeauty · 23/06/2021 17:21

Thankfully all I hear is Kirsty MacColl in my head when I read those lyrics. I actually didn't know it was a Bragg song. I so wish that Kirsty MacColl was still here with us.

TheFleegleHasLanded · 23/06/2021 20:07

@AssassinatedBeauty

Thankfully all I hear is Kirsty MacColl in my head when I read those lyrics. I actually didn't know it was a Bragg song. I so wish that Kirsty MacColl was still here with us.
Me too. I could hear Kirsty’s voice in my head. Wonder what she would make of all this nonsense…
ArabellaScott · 23/06/2021 20:16

Ah, I do miss Kirsty MacColl.

lazylinguist · 23/06/2021 20:33

Wow, so insufferable and talentless then? The man is literally the worst singer I think I've ever heard.

DoingItMyself · 23/06/2021 20:43

@lazylinguist

Wow, so insufferable and talentless then? The man is literally the worst singer I think I've ever heard.
Listen to Ian Brown.
GlomOfNit · 23/06/2021 20:48

Also mentally singing that in Kirsty's voice! Flowers I really miss her and her voice.

GlomOfNit · 23/06/2021 20:51

BB said 'excuse me' very nicely as he squeezed past me on the Pussy March back in early 2017 (it was a massive squash and squeeze at that stage of the march, he wasn't pushing in or anything). It made my day, week maybe. (Not because he'd said 'excuse me' per se but because, well, Billy Bragg.) This just makes his fall sadder to me in an entirely personal context. Grin Ah well.

lady69 · 23/06/2021 21:13

He’s THE classic champagne socialist. Awful w*nker.

WarriorN · 23/06/2021 21:14

Aw that's cheered me up!

Helmetbymidnight · 23/06/2021 21:17

yeah ive had a nice interaction with him Sad

my hunch is his world is full of niice people- he doesn't get that world-wide over 12O women a day are murdered by men...he doesn't get the idea that men rape, assault, intimidate etc.

WarOnWoman · 23/06/2021 21:23

Oh I remember seeing this last year. Nehanda is great.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 23/06/2021 21:23

I love Nehandra’s version, but it really hurts to remember how Billy Bragg‘s music used to carry me through bad times. Can’t believe how readily he pushed women under the bus.

MrsWooster · 23/06/2021 22:14

@thinkingaboutLangCleg

I love Nehandra’s version, but it really hurts to remember how Billy Bragg‘s music used to carry me through bad times. Can’t believe how readily he pushed women under the bus.
Same here. I was only thinking the other day that Billy knew the difference between men and women when he sang “they put YOU on the pill..” and yet Kirsty sang “you put ME on the pill”.
TheFleegleHasLanded · 23/06/2021 22:34

He lives near me. I now let my dog pee on his gateposts.

ScreamingMeMe · 24/06/2021 11:52

I feel quite smug about never having liked Bragg and his music. He's the original wokey blokey isn't he?

Here is Nehanda on Plebity.

PurpleHoodie · 24/06/2021 12:09

lady69

He’s THE classic champagne socialist. Awful wnker.*

Yes. Stereotypical boys on bikes on a council estate would have a few choice words about blokes like Billy Bragg.

PurpleHoodie · 24/06/2021 12:10

^

He’s THE classic champagne socialist. Awful wnker.*

PurpleHoodie · 24/06/2021 12:11

He’s THE classic champagne socialist. Awful wnker.

Hurrah

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