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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Pakistan PM - rape caused by women's lack of modesty

17 replies

Olderstyle1 · 07/04/2021 20:08

Well here's a surprise. Imran Khan has decided that the terrifying levels of sexual violence and abuse in Pakistan are not men's fault. It's the vulgarity of women.

The misogynist entitlement is off the scale with this one.
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/7acd253a-97b5-11eb-844f-28fd7a30ed88?shareToken=f6f7eb673cb571fe17b68598ce38c630

(The comments are a lesson in racist NAMALTery too. Sigh.)

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UppityPuppity · 07/04/2021 21:01

The only cause of rape is rapists.

Nothing else.

Fridget · 07/04/2021 21:11

Utterly disgusting

ArabellaScott · 07/04/2021 22:02

Absolutely fucking appalling.

quixote9 · 07/04/2021 23:27

There was an article years back in (I think) the New Yorker by (I think) George Packer (or George Saunders? George Somebody-or-other) after a few years of Iraq War. The author was visiting a Baghdad hospital, and the doctor was bemoaning the fact that they used to have a whole floor for virginity testing women. But all that was gone, and that was why Iraq was in such a dreadful state.

An unimaginably unhinged antifactual mentality, but I can see how it would be comforting. All you have to do is have total control over women, which would be so good for so many reasons, and poof! all your problems go away.

MissBarbary · 08/04/2021 00:38

I know it's a worn out MN cliché but he can

Fottfsof and when he gets there, fosm.

Wearywithteens · 08/04/2021 00:45

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Susie477 · 08/04/2021 00:52

What do you expect from someone who comes from one of the most backward, misogynistic religious cultures on the planet?

NiceGerbil · 08/04/2021 01:36

Oh for fucks sake.

And aside from the misogyny.

We have some lovely posters who like to discuss misandry with us a lot.

'This entire concept of purdah is to avoid temptation, not everyone has the willpower to avoid it,”'

THAT is man hating. The idea that men rape. That is, violently attack women, because they can't resist? Men aren't animals FFS.

ANewCreation · 08/04/2021 01:46

Ah, the myth of the uncontrollable male libido. When my DH and I went walking in Pakistan some years ago, I, like every single other Pakistani woman I saw, dressed modestly.

But, even though I was wearing an ankle length skirt, coat, gloves, big shawl over my head, no skin showing, head down, no eye contact etc, I had to have my brother-in-law walk directly behind me on 'bottom duty' otherwise random men in the street were continually pinching my bum/trying to grope me. Grim.

So, no, not a women's (or children's) modesty issue - how dare IK victim blame - but certainly an appalling male sense of entitlement and male sexual violence problem.

AlexaShutUp · 08/04/2021 01:47

Deeply depressing but sadly not surprising.

Wineat5isfine · 08/04/2021 01:59

Absolutely disgusting. He’s a fucking idiot.

Cwenthryth · 08/04/2021 07:06

I wondered what Jemima Goldsmith’s response would be glad to see she’s having none of it! Still defends him a little ‘I'm hoping this is a misquote/ mistranslation. The Imran I knew used to say, "Put a veil on the man's eyes not on the woman."’

twitter.com/jemima_khan/status/1379823510349099009?s=21

Sophoclesthefox · 08/04/2021 07:31

Lovely, Imran. You galloping fucking hypocrite.

manatsu · 08/04/2021 12:26

He should really Google 'OAP rape'. Or maybe 'toddler rape'. I'm sure both of those groups of women and girls had it coming for dressing immodestly. His theory makes SO much sense. Angry

Whatwouldscullydo · 08/04/2021 12:38

Rape happens.for one reason and one reason only. A rapist decides to rape.

That's why it happens to children through to the elderly in hospital gowns covered with bed sheets.

Its the rapist who needs to take responsibility fir their actions its not for the victims to adjust their clothing.

MissBarbary · 08/04/2021 12:50

@Whatwouldscullydo

Rape happens.for one reason and one reason only. A rapist decides to rape.

That's why it happens to children through to the elderly in hospital gowns covered with bed sheets.

Its the rapist who needs to take responsibility fir their actions its not for the victims to adjust their clothing.

Scully, I've just copied and pasted your post on to the Times btl. I keep getting questions from a poster there of the "but why/ I'm just trying to understand/ I'm not victim blaming but...." nature.

I might use manatsu's post as well.

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 08/04/2021 13:47

FFS.

I'm sure then that Afghanistan is blessedly free of rape when women wear burqas.

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