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Door to door political campaigning can start 8 March - what to ask your LIB DEM candidates

28 replies

Whydoyouthinkthatthen · 28/02/2021 10:03

There will be elections in May and campaigning can start 8 March. I thought it would be a good idea to have a series of threads so people can easily create a piece of paper to sit by the front door with issues to raise with each party.

The idea is to make it clear that women are prepared to make a fuss about these issues, and take their votes elsewhere.

Show each candidate what position their party has taken and how you would like that to change.

Research your local candidates if you can, and make it clear you will vote for the party (or candidate) that is clearest on women's issues.

So my starter for the Lib Dems:
Ed Davey thinks a transwoman is a woman. Do you think that transwomen should be admitted to female hospital wards? If not, why not?

www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/08/27/ed-davey-lgbt-rights-trans-transgender-section-28-gay-new-lib-dem-leader/

OP posts:
Xanthangum · 28/02/2021 10:29

Can you provide proof that Party Policy has not been influenced by Ferring Pharmaceuticals?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4177304-Ferring

teawamutu · 28/02/2021 10:43

I believe humans can't change sex and women need the single SEX spaces enshrined in law to remain single SEX, not gender.

Do you agree with Baroness Featherstone that you don't want my vote?

DryHeave · 28/02/2021 10:51

I think I’d start with an open question along the lines of: “do you think there is a conflict between the protected characteristics of sex and gender reassignment?” And depending on their answer take it from there.

SirSamuelVimes · 28/02/2021 11:09

Do I, or my daughters, have the right to NOT see a penis if we don't want to?

Biscuitsanddoombar · 28/02/2021 11:10

Do you think it is ok for a TW to play rugby in a female team?

Presuming the answer is yes as LD are full TWAW

Do you think it’s ok for a female rugby team to be 100% TW

AlfonsoTheTerrible · 28/02/2021 11:19

"Do you think humans can change sex?"

If the answer is "yes" my reply will be "You're not getting my vote".

teawamutu · 28/02/2021 11:23

Ooo ooo ooo given recent headlines: as the vast majority of domestic abuse is perpetrated by males, on females, should local providers be penalised for offering single sex support services?

ListeningQuietly · 28/02/2021 11:30

HEALTH : NHS is NOT part of the local elections.
All women shortlists : how many District Councils have shortlists for vacancies?
How many Parish councils.
These are LOCAL elections

Who do we vote for is not Labour or the Lib Dems ?

ArabellaScott · 28/02/2021 11:52

'What on earth are you all up to?'

'What happened to the party I used to support?'

'When are you all going to come to?'

Cwenthryth · 28/02/2021 12:23

If I get the opportunity, I will ask candidates about their views on council funding for local DV services providing single sex services.
Local VAWG strategy
The councils response to the Stonewall FOI (once they actually respond!) and the candidates’ thoughts on Stonewall memberships for the council and local schools.

MichelleofzeResistance · 28/02/2021 12:57

Honestly? "As a woman, having read much of your opinion and behavior on women over the past few years....would you be kind enough to get off my property?"

YourWurstNightmare · 28/02/2021 13:09

"Has the party changed its position on promoting extreme gender ideology?"
"Er, no"
SLAM DOOR

Tibtom · 28/02/2021 13:19

Why don't you think a women who has been traumatised by rape, possibly suffering from numerous violent injuries inflicted by that man or several men, and who has a very understandable fear of men should not be allowed to request that she examined by a female?

murbblurb · 28/02/2021 13:22

and you think the other parties give any fucks at all about all this?

my vote swings about because to be a lifelong voter of any party demonstrates lack of thinking. This time it is the ones that are trying to stop road building. If you have kids then you may want to think about that too.

Tibtom · 28/02/2021 13:35

@murbblurb

and you think the other parties give any fucks at all about all this?

my vote swings about because to be a lifelong voter of any party demonstrates lack of thinking. This time it is the ones that are trying to stop road building. If you have kids then you may want to think about that too.

Because they want votes. I also care so I want to know what the candidates think.
MichelleofzeResistance · 28/02/2021 13:42

What makes you think those women saying they would refuse to consider voting for a party with actively gynephobic policies (which is hardly surprising really) are not also swing voters? Confused

I don't go for the whole 'put your need not to be personally erased and oppressed in law and the needs of other vulnerable women to one side and think about the real issues like housing or the nhs etc first' to be missing the point. It's a good old sexist trope. But its rather pointless expecting women to be interested in your policies when you've first told them you have no respect for them, actively support their erasure, suppression, removal of services and making their lives more miserable and difficult.

All rather 'well apart from that Mrs Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?"

Goldensyrupissticky · 28/02/2021 13:44

Don’t think they’ll come back to my house after I told them I wouldn’t vote for them after being a lifetime supporter because of the party’s stance.

peak2021 · 28/02/2021 16:09

I'll ask about self ID as mentioned on the Labour Party thread and use Hampstead Ladies Pond as a reference.

ListeningQuietly · 28/02/2021 16:11

These are COUNCIL elections.
Vote for the party most likely to work for YOUR AREA
in the issues it has control over.

OldCrone · 28/02/2021 16:35

ListeningQuietly

They are also Welsh Parliament, Scottish Parliament and London Assembly elections.

In Scotland and Wales, the devolved parliaments have responsibility for areas such as health and education.

Tibtom · 28/02/2021 16:39

@ListeningQuietly

These are COUNCIL elections. Vote for the party most likely to work for YOUR AREA in the issues it has control over.
Scottish Parliament elections.

But it is important to remember Local councils also have control over most schools in the local area and trans policies in them including respecting single sex spaces and teaching of transideology. They also are a major local employer so are they a stonewall champion and if so what are they doing to support women's right which conflict with Stonewall's agenda? Do they uphokd the equality act and monitor sex discrimination? What about local facilities such as leisure centres - will your daughter's privacy be respected when using the local pool? Will there still be women only sessions? Do they fund women only groups? Do council run sports clubs uphold fairness in sports by keeping them single sex? Public toilet provision? Appropriate safeguarding? Ensuring children are not exposed to adult entertainment in local libraries? Is your elderly mum able to request a female carer? What about things like ensuring tge civic environment is welcoming to women and girls? Are girls in the care of the local community forced to share rooms with boys? Or for that matter are girls on school residentials?

Women's rights and self id is a crucial issue at the local level.

Newuser123123 · 28/02/2021 16:41

It's great that your party supports women's rights, please can you tell me what a woman is?

ListeningQuietly · 28/02/2021 16:47

But it is important to remember Local councils also have control over most schools in the local area
NO. Most schools are now academies.
They also are a major local employer so are they a stonewall champion and if so what are they doing to support women's right which conflict with Stonewall's agenda? Do they uphokd the equality act and monitor sex discrimination?
Valid point fully accepted
What about local facilities such as leisure centres - will your daughter's privacy be respected when using the local pool? Will there still be women only sessions? Do they fund women only groups? Do council run sports clubs uphold fairness in sports by keeping them single sex? Public toilet provision? Appropriate safeguarding?
Almost all are run by outsourced companies over which elected members have little control

Its key to challenge people on the things they cannot fob off

Tibtom · 28/02/2021 17:05

Services may be outsourced but councils write the contracts and are still responsible for the services. The services are commissioned by the councils and contracts regularly come up for renewal. Will they look favourably upon those that uphold women's rights to exclusive provision or will they, like the Scottish government, demand full acquiescence to transideology before funding?

merrymouse · 28/02/2021 17:12

As I understand it, the problem with changing Lib Dem policy is that it is decided by the members at conference. (Although I have to admit I'm a bit confused, because they seemed to change their tactics on Brexit without having a conference).