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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Notes on British Transphobia - a hilariously silly and inaccurate article by an "anti capitalist" group

18 replies

stumbledin · 09/01/2021 20:49

Apart from not knowing who WPUK is and who Posie Parker is, they also dont understand Jane Austen!!

But they do know all about mumsnet:

" ... That the British media is transphobic is scarcely arguable. That transphobia is rife online is well established too. That the British website Mumsnet has become for internet transphobia what 4Chan was for Donald Trump’s alt-right is made clear by multiple investigations. And that the world looks on us as a swamp of such bigotry should be a cause for shame. But we are not fated to this muddle. ... "

Article here www.anticapitalistresistance.org/post/notes-on-british-transphobia should you want to comment or if you dont want to give them any hits archived here archive.is/zmFgF

WPUK response here womansplaceuk.org/2021/01/09/misfortune-the-lefts-betrayal-of-women-and-marxism/

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zanahoria · 09/01/2021 21:10

are they against the Pharmaceutical capitalists?

AnyOldPrion · 09/01/2021 21:16

This from WPUK sums it up, I think:

”We do not have time to wade through this twaddle and produce yet another rebuttal.”

”We regret that journalism of this quality passes for intellectual discourse within large parts of the Left but we hereby place our contempt on record.”

It’s more word salad, which fails to make sense on any level. If these people want to engage with reality and the arguments women put forward, then their words might be worth engaging with. Wading through twaddle is an excellent analysis.

littlbrowndog · 09/01/2021 21:24

Yeah it’s the blah blah blah stuff. I never even looked

Only one of us should spend time looking and let rest of us know

Spreading out tiresome tasks. Bit like my life at moment

Defaultname · 09/01/2021 21:26

@zanahoria

are they against the Pharmaceutical capitalists?
" In truth, blockers are demonstrably not a risky experiment threatening children’s well-being, but an under-resourced intervention that permits trans teenagers an opportunity to mitigate gender dysphoria. It affords them the chance to decide on more serious treatments as adults. There is plenty of extant evidence that blockers are a vital service and, far from too readily provided, are overly restricted. Therefore, as with many social goods, they are often least available to the poorest. Numerous organisations have already taken apart the specious basis for this attack on trans rights. Their voices, however, are too rarely joined by socialists who ought to be, in Lenin’s words, tribunes of the oppressed."

Coo.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 09/01/2021 21:50

I'm confused. "Dr. Adrian Harrop was so moved by his patients’ desperation, he produced a forty-minute video explaining in layman’s terms the realities of hormone blockers."

Does Dr. Adrian Harrop actually have patients? I thought that he wasn't employed? Or at least, not as a doctor.

CranberriesChoccyAgain · 10/01/2021 14:27

He mentions the "hate group" LGB Alliance and how some of their followers are neo-nazis. I have no idea if this is true, but would the author be willing to discuss the likes of David Challenor supporting trans rights? Or the endless violence towards women online from trans activists? Do those people exemplify the trans rights movement?

dyslek · 10/01/2021 15:04

How can you go on about class and material reality and then seemlessly switch to the gendered soul.

The modern left is having a moment of insanity.

dyslek · 10/01/2021 15:08

LGB Alliance has nee-nazi sympathisers Confused

Jesus fucking Christ, the left needs to get its shit together, its an embarrassment.

MartiniDry · 10/01/2021 15:19

Oh WPUK, I love you!
Best. Response. Ever.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/01/2021 15:52

How can you go on about class and material reality and then seemlessly switch to the gendered soul.

Tsk. You "vulgar materialist" you Grin

MichelleofzeResistance · 10/01/2021 16:27

We look forward to the day when our detractors engage with our arguments instead of just making stuff up.

Don't we all.

SkeeterP · 10/01/2021 21:47

How this got published us beyond be. It makes zero sense from the very first Marxist quote ..

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 10/01/2021 23:40

They quote Karl Marx and then go on a rant he wouldn't recognise as Marxism in a million years. Where the fuck is their class analysis? Have they even thought of it? Heard of it?

PlantMam · 11/01/2021 00:54

They identify as Marxist.

Defaultname · 11/01/2021 01:16

@PrawnofthePatriarchy

They quote Karl Marx and then go on a rant he wouldn't recognise as Marxism in a million years. Where the fuck is their class analysis? Have they even thought of it? Heard of it?
Maybe men who have 'fully transitioned' have lost their means of production?
thinkingaboutLangCleg · 11/01/2021 13:53

They identify as Marxist.
Maybe men who have 'fully transitioned' have lost their means of production?

Grin

Whenever the gobsmacking dishonesty of the trans lobby gets me down, I can rely on some dauntless Mumsnetter to stick a cheeky pin in their inflated rhetoric and make me laugh instead.

Wine to all women who refuse to put the handmaid headresses on.

stumbledin · 11/01/2021 14:24

Defaultname - worth setting up the thread just for that!

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/01/2021 14:28

Maybe men who have 'fully transitioned' have lost their means of production?

LOL

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