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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Shirley Manson on female brainwashing

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Thisusernameistakenagain · 14/12/2020 23:50

www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/celebrity/shirley-manson-women-are-brainwashed-from-childhood/ar-BB1bUWPv?ocid=ientp#image=1

I found this to be true-although I know she has said some controversial things recently.

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MRC20 · 14/12/2020 23:57

"She taught me to reach for what fascinated me. Something about losing her fuelled me to continue on my own terms and that was the last jewel she left me as she departed this earth: she drove the little engine in me that helps me do what I love doing."

I love this!

HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee · 14/12/2020 23:59

Well yes,she’s in entertainment industry that commodifies women solely on looks
I mean look at the vitriolic abuse jesy nelson gets about her looks
As a general I agree we are commodified and subjected to conscious & unconscious conditioning about appearance and worth

MRC20 · 15/12/2020 00:00

When I turned 30 a friend's mum told me I'd better hurry up and settle down as my looks wouldn't last forever and I didn't have much time left to find a 'decent man'. By decent she meant rich btw.

Tbf I did shortly after meet a decent man. He's not rich though. She was disappointed 🤣

ErrolTheDragon · 15/12/2020 00:07

@MRC20

When I turned 30 a friend's mum told me I'd better hurry up and settle down as my looks wouldn't last forever and I didn't have much time left to find a 'decent man'. By decent she meant rich btw.

Tbf I did shortly after meet a decent man. He's not rich though. She was disappointed 🤣

She sounds like a character from a Jane Austen book.
SunsetBeetch · 15/12/2020 06:51

For controversial, read offensive.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3963021-Garbage-living-up-to-their-name

SunsetBeetch · 15/12/2020 06:52

@HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee

Well yes,she’s in entertainment industry that commodifies women solely on looks I mean look at the vitriolic abuse jesy nelson gets about her looks As a general I agree we are commodified and subjected to conscious & unconscious conditioning about appearance and worth
Have you see that Jesy has left Little Mix? I hope she is going to be ok.
CodenameVillanelle · 15/12/2020 06:52

Shirley Manson has been brainwashed to believe men can turn into women so

SunsetBeetch · 15/12/2020 07:28

And she feels it's fine to appropriate George Floyd's death to make a point about it.

And all the TRAs, many of whom have something about supporting BLM in their twitter bios, don't see anything offensive about that - because "Shirley Manson said trans rights!".

Ugh. I'm disgusted and angry about that all over again.

andawaywego · 15/12/2020 14:41

I'm working my way through some old teenage CDs I found in my parents' loft and have been having a listen to some Garbage lately. I used to think she was so strong and their music was so empowering, but listening to it as a grown woman I just feel like 90% of the songs are her whining and begging some bloke to love her. I mean, one song is literally her singing 'I'm not like all of the other girls'. Groan.

I'm annoyed because Blondie are touring with Garbage next year and I'd love to see Blondie. Just CBA to sit through the rest of it.

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 15/12/2020 18:11

The garbage woman? Yes she is living proof that anyone (not just women) can be brainwashed...

SunsetBeetch · 15/12/2020 21:07

I always used to think she was a bit of a knob but couldn't pinpoint why. I now think it's the Cool Girl, Not Like Other Girls thing.

I liked some Garbage songs but was never heavily into them.

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