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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Douglas Murray in the Times

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Igneococcus · 27/08/2020 20:08

I haven't actually read it yet but here is a share token for the article:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b3baa31a-e87c-11ea-9b25-18353d361fa2?shareToken=6ce42f446682ca2a75ff04a02df38aa8

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Mollscroll · 28/08/2020 11:46

No it's SilverLady on the Times who is also good. Thank you both.

Butterer · 28/08/2020 12:38

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YgritteSnow · 28/08/2020 12:52

There's a comment on that article about a Janice Turner article about the impact of TW in sport which has apparently been removed from The Times website. Does anyone have a copy of this article please? The sport issue is the one that raised my awareness and I suspect has been and will in the long term be the most valuable tool tor raising awareness.

YgritteSnow · 28/08/2020 12:55

Oh never mind, some kind soul has posted the content in the comments.

JellyFishSquish · 28/08/2020 13:15

Well over 700 comments!

Some clueless men saying "what's the big deal?" and "nobody cares" but mostly excellent well thought through points.

ThinEndoftheWedge · 28/08/2020 13:56

Rowling also supports conversion therapy for trans kids.

As opposed to conversion therapy for gay kids - mainly lesbians, because that’s just fine.

Go JK.

Gncq · 28/08/2020 14:03

Trans kids are an adult experiment.

BigotedWoman · 28/08/2020 14:30

He’s been good recently on the hypocrisy of Ben & Jerry’s too.

BovaryX · 28/08/2020 14:42

@BigotedWoman

He’s been good recently on the hypocrisy of Ben & Jerry’s too.
He was absolutely withering about the Starbucks cookie....
ThinEndoftheWedge · 28/08/2020 14:54

He was absolutely withering about the Starbucks cookie....

Yes - his anger at the harm Mermaids via Starbucks et al is doing to children was palpable. Can’t remember what clip it came from.

I don’t agree with everything DM says - you don’t have to - but I am pleased with his input on this.

AntsInPenzance · 28/08/2020 15:35

I get that you don't have to agree with every opinion someone holds, but it's so bloody disheartening to me, as a socialist, when it's yet another right-wing/racist who speaks out on this topic.

Butterer · 28/08/2020 16:09

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BlueboxRedbox · 28/08/2020 16:58

Someone in the comments (possibly a Mumsnetter) recommended a youtube video, featuring Caityln Jenner, on the . It was an interesting clip which I hadn't seen before, just adding it to this thread in case anyone else is interested.

DidoLamenting · 28/08/2020 20:25

Eh? Douglas Murray is moderate right- wing. I'm so fed up of this "left- wing- good, right- wing , bad" mindset.

As for "racist"? Where on earth are you getting that from?

Goosefoot · 28/08/2020 20:35

Yeah, I guess he's right wing though I think traditional conservative might be more accurate. But racist?

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