Changing chromosomes is possible

[SepticTankYank]

I rarely post on Facebook. I can never be bothered. Someone keeps posting anti JK Rowling posts. I commented on one and it got deleted. I commented on another and I wish it was deleted. I got a barrage of bullshit on there. Myself and two other girls agreed and discussed. The author stated he would delete anything that was transphobic (so anything that didn't agree with his views) one stated you can't change chromosomes. I asked if he was going to delete that or if science was still a thing? Obviously it was deleted but he then posted

"Please look up information/testimonies or - from a position of genuine interest, empathy, and respect - ask people for more information themselves. Don't just declare identities wrong, say it's scientific fact when it is provably wrong by anyone with literacy on this subject, and melt like a snowflake when someone explains that hate speech isn't free speech and they're not taking your transphobia."

I have asked but no response. What on earth does he mean that it's provably wrong that we are born a sex and it can't be changed??? This doesn't make sense to me and google doesn't bring anything that I see as relevant or likely to explain.

I'm doing a lot of reading on this at the minute, most of it guided by mumsnet and am learning so much. I'd like to thank you all for that.

This is an excellent scientific take-down of the "sex is a spectrum" bollocks.
twitter.com/zaelefty/status/1283462168478973952

The short version - the whole point of two sexes in animals is to support anisogamous reproduction, in which members of one sex develop with a reproductive system capable of producing small immobile gametes and members of the other sex develop with a reproductive system capable of producing large immobile gametes.

Everything else is evidence of variability within the sexes - even, for instance, XX individuals with a translocation of the SRY gene onto one of the X chromosomes such that they end up with a functioning male reproductive system despite the SRY gene having ended up on an X chromosome instead of its normal location on a Y chromosome.

Variation within a sex (even when - e.g. height - that variability is so great that the distribution for the male sex overlaps with that for the female sex) is not evidence that there's no such thing as sex, or that sex is a continuum.

But seriously, the man's a dick. As far as I can see, your only connection with him is you went to school with him. Block him. And post some genuine science on your own page for your real friends to see.

[quote Broomfondle]@holidayplanningnewbie

Don't forget

• Sex segregation is literally like race segregation.

He's talking bull. He's also talking sexist bull. I'm actually very interested in epigenetics and sex based differences. Anyway

I'd just ask him if sex is so immaterial and women can have penises and men can have vaginas etc and it's bigoted to think otherwise, why the trans lobby allows the most vulnerable portion of the people it represents to get life changing surgery on their healthy bodies in line with that 'bigoted' ideal? That men do have penises and no breasts and women do have vaginas and breasts? Why are healthy bodies being medically and surgically altered to uphold a binary they criticise?

Woman - I'm female because I have a female body.
TRAs - "Bigot! Transphobe!"
Transwoman - I'm a woman and therefore need a female body.
TRAs - "Of course! It's your right! Anything less would be a literal invalidation of who you are!"

Woman - I'm female because my reproductive system is geared towards making ova
TRAs - " Sex doesn't matter! It's so much more complicated than that! It doesn't make you a woman anyway! Loads of women have penises or no breasts and they are still women!"
Transman - "I'm a man"
TRAs - "Ok here are these hormones to help you develop male secondary sex characteristics and here is the clinic that will remove your breasts and female reproductive organs as they are obviously in direct conflict with you being able to identify as man.

It's crazy how "you're female so can't be male" is compared to "you're female so make me a sandwich". The first is only sexist if you value one sex over another.
Acknowledging sex is not invalidating identity.
It is also not saying 'I acknowledge your sex so believe you are less worthy of rights and protections'. Women have fought for years for them not to be treated differently because of their sex when it is irrelevant and for specific rights and services when it is.
The relevance of sex in some circumstances has not changed. The relevance of gender reassignment in discrimination has been acknowledged hence the protected characteristic in the equality act.

You know who agrees that it's shit to be made to feel bad for your sex? Feminists. But it's just not reality to therefore do away with it all together and treated everyone as sexless.
If feminists had argued sex is a spectrum and females were really males and that's the basis their rights should be based on women would not have the rights and services they specifically need today.
Same if homosexuals had used that arguement to say they were really heterosexual.
If transwomen and transmen are given rights and services on the basis they are male and female they will not only erase the rights of others but miss out on creating the rights and services they specifically need.[/quote]
Fabulous post.

I can't stand pompous, self-important men like him. I'd be deleting and blocking. With a goodbye flourish like the excellent one you suggest.

Thats brilliant TorkTorkBam

I agree, he is a fool. I bet hes got a beard, I bet he spends a lot of time stroking his beard. I find these men who debate our reality like its theoretical study so tedius and ever so slightly ridiculous.

I too think you should post the brilliant "To the man who thinks biological sex doesn't exist" Medium article. He probably won't see the irony though.

ChattyLion - well you can’t spell Wally without Ally.

Ally McZeal

Virtue points about this topic are very cheap for men, in general. None of their rights are threatened (yet), nobody calls them ejaculators in health pamphlets, and nobody tries to erase the word "man" on condom packets. Trans men will not take away most of their Olympic medals, ever, and will not pose a threat in toilets.

By far the largest proportion of Individuals with DSDS are not intersex. XXY Are males who May be diagnosed As having Kleinfelters syndrome. XO are females who will likely be diagnosed by puberty as having Turner syndrome. XXX and XYY are normal, usually females and males respectively so aren’t even DSD.

I posted onto another thread
which turned into a fascinating but epic derail

a lot of the Trans ideology hangs its science on a misunderstanding of post pregnancy chimerism

• the fact that mothers absorb cells from their unborn children
• and that younger siblings can absorb cells from their older siblings back from the mother
• and round and round

so it is entirely possible for males and females to contain cells with the wrong chromosomes

but has fuck all to do with Tans

He has posted the below picture and then commented on the ratio of likes between men and women.

"The ratio between men and women on this post's likes is low, almost as if there is some sort of privilege that means that boys didn't get told that they were wearing inappropriate clothing at school and they didn't grow up to have the same strength of opinion on the subject as those with lived experiences"

I feel like saying something about assuming how they identify but that would be childish.