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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JKR on Loose Women 10/06/2020

19 replies

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 10/06/2020 12:40

Unsure if she's on herself, or just her "transphobia" being discussed.

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anonymum95 · 10/06/2020 12:44

Think it's just discussion. Interested to see what people think about this though. I'm genuinely confused as to why stating the fact that only women can menstruate is transphobic. Trans women have male reproductive organs and cannot menstruate??

CloudsCanLookLikeSheep · 10/06/2020 12:47

I'm genuinely confused as to why stating the fact that only women can menstruate is transphobic. Trans women have male reproductive organs and cannot menstruate??

Because it confounds the Transwomen are women narrative, and reminds them that no matter what they do to their body they cannot override biology to have the biological functions of a natal woman.

There is also the issue that Transmen may menstruate, but I really don't think it is about that so much.

refusetobeasheep · 10/06/2020 12:54

this is enraging. is there not one loose woman able to speak up for female rights?

rogdmum · 10/06/2020 13:00

I can’t believe the argument is starting to turn to “Oh but not all women menstruate”. FFS. I’m 52 and can’t wait to no longer be “a menstruator”. Still will be a woman and won’t be triggered by the use of “women” around it.

rogdmum · 10/06/2020 13:01

“Not all women menstruate” as in those who identify as women but don’t due to menopause, birth control etc., not TM/NB.

Mermoose · 10/06/2020 13:04

So women who menstruate can't be called women because some women don't menstruate.

So, as there are women who don't shop in, say, M&S, will M&S be changing the 'women's department' to ''people who shop here's department'?

Thingybob · 10/06/2020 13:08

I didnt expect much from the other three but Janet? I honestly don't believe an intelligent woman like her doesn't get it.

Lordamighty · 10/06/2020 13:09

Will they ever have someone who is gc on? I emailed them I was so annoyed, it’s absolutely ridiculous. Are they going to rename the show Loose People or Loose Cis Women?

DrDavidBanner · 10/06/2020 13:19

This is what I don't get (well there's lots I don't get but I don't think I'm supposed to)

1, As woman is now a taboo term I no longer menstruate. How do I define myself so as not to offend people who hate the term woman?

2, Whenever I hear these new definitions of what used to be w i.e. bleeders, menstruators, womb havers etc it just makes me hink of when misogynists call us piece of ass, split arses, cunts etc. Is that just me being sensitive or are they all cut from the same cloth?

zanahoria · 10/06/2020 13:22

I am wondering whether JK choose the right thing to tweet about, some people seem confused and others are deliberately misunderstanding.

I think she was on firmer ground when she defended Maya

Lordamighty · 10/06/2020 13:28

I agree that there is some wilful misunderstanding. The absolute cheek of the trans actor stating she should be educated on the subject.

DickKerrLadies · 10/06/2020 13:29

Wait, a show called Loose Women thinks that JKR is transphobic for thinking people should use the word 'women' to describe women?

It really is a topsy-turvy world, isn't it.

AbsintheFriends · 10/06/2020 13:36

I didn't watch, but guessed the discussion would go this way. Loose Women is all about woolly virtue signalling and 'being kind', whilst also making a nod to being current and not 'fuddy-duddy'. No one wants to accidentally voice unfashionable view which make them look like old battle-axes in front of the youngsters, right? LW's remit is to kindly instruct their audience on the most flattering opinions for women of a certain age to hold. Second wave feminism is incredibly ageing (head tilt)

But I suspect Janet Street Porter probably lies awake staring at the ceiling at 3am wondering if she should have put a higher price on her conscience, integrity and intelligence.

Deliriumoftheendless · 10/06/2020 14:25

I don’t watch Loose Menstruators.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 10/06/2020 14:39

We’ve all seen this, but for those puzzled by the argument that not all women menstruate, but all people who menstruate are women, peachyogurt’s bicycle video.

HeIenaDove · 10/06/2020 21:44

Loose Women is all about woolly virtue signalling and 'being kind

I bet Kim Woodburn"s teeth would itch if she read that.

LockdownLump · 10/06/2020 22:55

Loose women should be renamed 'women, using the term loosely'

Not that I give their drivel much mind.

I just feel like I'm done today.

Divebar · 10/06/2020 22:58

Was the other JKR thread zapped ?

Binglebong · 10/06/2020 23:43

I saw this was on and deliberately changed channel. The industry they work in is very woke and as freelancers I doubt they dare say their real view on this. If they are GC I mean, but as they are surrounded by people who will swear TWAW it has probably influenced their thinking too. So in conclusion: disappointing but unsurprising.

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