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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

New Stonewall CEO confirmed

45 replies

WTFSeriously · 13/05/2020 07:27

www.stonewall.org.uk/about-us/news/stonewall-welcomes-nancy-kelley-new-ceo

OP posts:
Mucklowe · 13/05/2020 18:15

I had an idea last night: why doesn't stonewall give up on the trans agenda and go to do work in places where LGB rights are still non-existent?

SarahTancredi · 13/05/2020 18:26

I had an idea last night: why doesn't stonewall give up on the trans agenda and go to do work in places where LGB rights are still non-existent?

Excellent idea

And for the love of God dont do a penis news and hold up Iran as a model for trans rights forgetting most your readers would be killed if they went there Hmm

Apollo440 · 13/05/2020 18:29

Yep. Lots of LGB stuff for them to do. My friend was disinherited by his mother because he was gay (and that was the reason she gave in the will). Notwithstanding you can do what you like in a will the gift has to be accepted by the trustees she left it to. Given the gift from the President's Club was refused for their sexist behaviour it was arguable that a 'hate' will could be refused. Would the charity accept a gift if it said they could only benefit white people? Needless to say Stonewall could give a fuck. Now if he had been excluded because he was trans I'm sure they would have jumped at it.

OhHolyJesus · 13/05/2020 19:38

Hi pope the T was added in 2015

Visibility is growing exponentially

She says that as though it's a good thing. Great damage has been done to transsexuals with Stonewall's campaigns.

Acceptance of LGBT is actually decreasing (will post links later but someone else may remember the survey). Can't think why Hmm

Challenor may remain part of SW Sarah there is a statement at the bottom of the list of people that not all names are shown on the trans advisory group:

MEMBERS OF THE GROUP WERE APPOINTED FOLLOWING AN EXTENSIVE APPLICATION AND RECRUITMENT PROCESS. PLEASE NOTE, SOME MEMBERS OF THE GROUP HAVE ELECTED TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS, SO HAVE NOT BEEN INCLUDED ON THIS LIST.

SarahTancredi · 13/05/2020 21:03

Challenor may remain part of SWSarahthere is a statement at the bottom of the list of people that not all names are shown on the trans advisory group

One of course would hope they arent. However their influence on trans inclusive policies doesn't seen to worry people anyway. Girlguiding was not remotely interested that they were found to be incapable of understanding safeguarding.

80 pages of investigation is clearly insignificant Hmm

Stonewall gold certificates on the wall means far more to every organisation than the safety and well being of children Angry

mummmy2017 · 15/05/2020 11:02

I think the Stonewall need to watch Johnathan Creek.
The clue of Savants thumb.
About 15 mins in.
This is how most of us feel.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/05/2020 12:21

if they didn't stop banging on about it - so what dangers do they face? The danger of being laughed at?

I think that's pretty much it, Clymene. The "violence" of not having your special identity and presentation (that's of course much more interesting than boring "cis" people's) taken seriously.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 15/05/2020 12:51

Looking at that link to the new COOs departure from her last job, it's not a deep talent pool they're picking from, is it?

Tootsweets23 · 15/05/2020 13:15

@TheProdigalKittensReturn that's what I thought too! I assume they weren't exactly flooded with applications. Considering the political climate is turning, never mind the legal challenges, who in their right mind would want to be CEO over the next few years.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 15/05/2020 13:30

It's a poisoned chalice of a job for anyone who'd like to keep working in that field.

Winesalot · 15/05/2020 13:47

So new execs announced AND a new deck of inclusive study packs for helping kids studying.... a big week it seems.

twitter.com/stonewalluk/status/1261074817731657729?s=21

SarahTancredi · 15/05/2020 14:24
Shock

They have no shame at all do they

truthisarevolutionaryact · 15/05/2020 14:39

Stonewall openly employed someone in an advisory position who had been named by an enquiry as failing to understand safeguarding. Had a school employed this person in the face of such evidence, Ofsted would have been in that school like a shot and condemned it.
Yet Stonewall can boast of employing this person while claiming to be a fit organisation to work with and in schools. Safeguarding isn't an optional extra. If you fail to adhere to safeguarding guidelines, then you shouldn't be working with children. #nodebate.

EwwSprouts · 16/05/2020 12:11

^^ totally agree with this.

lionheart · 16/05/2020 21:09

Guardian and Ruth Hunt:

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/may/16/ruth-hunt-at-oxford-i-found-other-girls-wjho-liked-girls-cheap-alcohol-and-smoking

'Trans women are women, trans men are men and non-binary people are valid. The ease with which we dehumanise them is terrifying. I receive more hateful abuse from people who take issue with this than I’ve ever had from homophobes.'

drspouse · 16/05/2020 21:26

She's a woman married to a woman, you'd think she had a clue about what a woman is.

OvaHere · 16/05/2020 21:29

'Trans women are women, trans men are men and non-binary people are valid. The ease with which we dehumanise them is terrifying. I receive more hateful abuse from people who take issue with this than I’ve ever had from homophobes.'

By 'hateful abuse' we can assume that's people (mostly women) pointing out what insufferable bullshit it is.

Needmoresleep · 16/05/2020 21:32

Sounds as if she feels pretty scarred by her time on the gender wars front line.

Pity she failed to understand that there is a genuine conflict of rights, and that trying to force through societal change using #nodebate was at best unwise. A worst a major betrayal of women and girls.

Kit19 · 16/05/2020 21:34

Bluntly I’m sure Ruth Hunt has no intention of ever getting her hands or mouth around lady dique being as how she’s a lesbian & knows exactly what a woman is but luckily for her she’s married & under no pressure to do so

But she’s happily thrown young lesbians under the bus so she can sit smugly with her peerage

There are no limits as to how far she can fuck off

lionheart · 17/05/2020 13:45

And for home learning:

www.stonewall.org.uk/home-learning-packs-stonewall

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