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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

This Never Happens: Oregon rapist sues for transfer to women's prison

27 replies

Durgasarrow · 26/01/2020 15:15

The newly minted Amber Danielle Thorrden apparently has not been enjoying her past five years in an all-male prison for her sexual abuse of a minor and would like the society of her fellow ladies.

www.koin.com/news/oregon/transgender-sex-offender-demands-to-move-to-womens-prison-in-lawsuit/

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Redshoeblueshoe · 26/01/2020 15:20

Apparently your link doesn't work in Europe, I guess it will work next week Grin

stillathing · 26/01/2020 15:29

Are we allowed to correctly sex this individual?

ShootsFruitAndLeaves · 26/01/2020 15:49

he was convicted of rape.

ImFineThankYouSusan · 26/01/2020 15:53

Fucking piece of shit cunt.

Fuck him.

All you 'feminists' who want GC away from FWR boards... This is what you are allowing.

This male, plus many, many others.

I await my deletion.

ArranUpsideDown · 26/01/2020 16:00

Amber Danielle Thorrden filed a federal suit against the state’s Department of Corrections on Tuesday, claiming she is no longer safe at an all-male prison.

Thorrden, 41, says the constitutional rights in the Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments should legally allow her to be transferred to Coffee Creek Correctional Facility in Wilsonville. In the complaint to the DOC, she says her situation warrants a move because Snake River is “failing to protect her from harm,” and that she has been denied “equal protection” and “protection from discrimination.”

[Dobbs] was convicted of multiple counts of second degree rape and first degree sexual abuse in 2015 for sex with a minor. While in prison, Dobbs transitioned to identify as a woman.

For those without access to the story. I hope that it does become available because there is a very interesting embedded link to the civil case.

GenderfreeLang · 26/01/2020 18:04

He doesn't feel safe in the male prison where he belongs? Tough shit he shouldn't have done such vile and disgusting things especially to a minor.

Convicted sex offenders should not be allowed to legally change sex. This allows them to hide their previous actions to varying degrees, which should not be allowed. They should never be housed with vulnerable women ever.

NeurotrashWarrior · 26/01/2020 18:35

This is an extremely pertinent watch.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=GrxdLNg8-gs

SunsetBeetch · 26/01/2020 18:39

When you get the not available in Europe message for links, you can still get into them via a google search, e.g. search "Amber Danielle Thorrden" and this article will pop up. (Hope this makes sense?)

Redshoeblueshoe · 26/01/2020 18:42

Thanks sunset it does

slipperywhensparticus · 27/01/2020 06:32

What of they said you can go to womens prison but your penis and testicles must be removed first I wonder how that will go down.....

LangSpartacusCleg · 27/01/2020 06:47

Convicted as a male of a crime of sexual abuse/sexual violence against a female child.

I think MNHQ would agree that we can correctly sex him as a male rather than ‘misgender’. This is another Karen a White situation which is specifically referenced and permitted in the guidelines.

LangSpartacusCleg · 27/01/2020 06:49

What if they said you can go to womens prison but your penis and testicles must be removed first I wonder how that will go down.....

I would like to say while I would still consider someone who had that surgery as a castrated male, I would not have the same visceral reaction to putting them in the female prison estate.

TitianaTitsling · 27/01/2020 06:54

Ah but slippery as l was recently told by a wide eyed acquaintance- 'that's her penis, she cannot help that she has it and we cannot be so aggressive that we ask her to change what makes her, her..' they were also wearing a 'keep calm, (as in the ww2 poster) some people are trans, get over it' jumper, so l expect they were shocked l didn't gushingly agree!

SarahTancredi · 27/01/2020 06:55

If they arent safe in a male jail then that's on the staff and governors to sort out within said mans prison.

The solution is not to cage them up with women.

They are where they belong. You weren't bothered by your dick when you used it to rape a child.. dont pretend it's a source of trauma now.

NonnyMouse1337 · 27/01/2020 06:59

slipperywhensparticus a male who is a violent sexual predator and has their penis and testicles removed is still a male who is a violent sexual predator. He can use various objects to hurt his victims and his mere presence would be sufficient to upset, intimidate and terrify any female prisoner stuck with him in an enclosed space.

MindTheMinotaur · 27/01/2020 07:11

I was taught at my (girls) school that rape and sexual assault are about power as much as sex. If that's true then taking away penis and testicles would have no impact on the ability or desire to commit crimes around power.

Suing the state is probably one of the limited ways this individual can assert control over others. Take away the power to control in the ideology, set out sensible rules that protect everyone with third spaces and both women and the trans community would benefit.

SarahTancredi · 27/01/2020 07:19

I was taught at my (girls) school that rape and sexual assault are about power as much as sex

It is. Which is why all arguments like " not every man is looking at you in the changing rooms" and " there are lesbians " or " it's ok hes gay anyway" are pure nonsense. Cos its never about attraction or sexuality. Its about power.

WhatDoIKnowReally · 27/01/2020 07:24

Requesting it is not the same as being allowed it. Prisoners request all kinds of things they never get.

SarahTancredi · 27/01/2020 07:28

Yes but this is something they has a real chance of happening. More so than asking for an x box.

HandsOffMyLangCleg · 27/01/2020 07:54

Just look at the image and the caption (paper must be a phobe as it deadnames the prisoner). Says it all.

What male body part do male paedophiles use to rape children?

The victim and their families must be devastated by this.

OncewasLangandClegtwo · 27/01/2020 08:05

From another article

I have gone well beyond exhausting my administrative remedies,” Thorrden said in the lawsuit. “I am missing out on the much needed ‘real-life’ experience of living as a female. Being placed in a female prison is a necessary step in my treatment, and must not be denied

Remember, it never happens.
Please let sense prevail in this case.

NellieEllie · 27/01/2020 08:06

With self Id, there is no such thing as “genuine trans”. It becomes meaningless. If you say you are, you are. It’s not a question of whether you have genuine dysphoria, and it’s certainly not a question of DESERVING to be trans.
Once self Id is enshrined in law, reality has shifted, “Rights” mean that any questioning of a person who “self ids”, is discriminatory.
This is the danger. - It’s not about being a woman if you FEEL you are a woman, it’s about being a woman if you SAY you feel you are a woman. If self Id comes into law, there will need to be a whole load of conditions, exceptions to prevent Yaniv moments, and there will be a whole load of litigation.

SarahTancredi · 27/01/2020 08:10

Yy nellie

Women are not allowed to question motives or authenticity at all. Acceptance without exception and all that.

But the trans community can throw out any self IDing person which they have done, usually its when they have committed crimes and are in prison , those arent real trans because they dont fit the poor defenseless oppressed narrative.

Remember everyones favourite womans officer who called all of Karen whites victims liars.

NeurotrashWarrior · 27/01/2020 10:39

Requesting it is not the same as being allowed it. Prisoners request all kinds of things they never get.

What the film I linked to.

Abusers abusing the system repeatedly. Also enjoying strip searches by female prison staff.

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