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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Ashlee Evans Smith defeats Fallon Fox

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BuzzShitbagBobbly · 04/12/2019 07:30

(Warning: potentially upsetting/violence)

This is a clip of a female MMA fighter taking on Fallon Fox (male born and bred, transitioned as a mature adult).

Yes, Ashlee defeats Fox, but I found it really quite distressing to watch a male sexed person deliberately getting in the ring to purposely try and beat the shit out of a woman. (And the breathy little girl voice at the start completely assuming the win is a foregone conclusion too.)

I felt like every single one of Ashlee's punches was saying "Fuck you. This is for every woman who has been hurt by male violence"

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PerrysWinkle · 04/12/2019 14:49

Great to see women winning at women’s sporting events.
Interesting that the monitors are out for this one. 👋🏼

hamstersarse · 04/12/2019 15:05

Joe Rogan talks very sensibly about Fallon Fox

slipperywhensparticus · 04/12/2019 18:31

Why are there so many deletions? Why are we not allowed to discuss a born female winning a match

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 04/12/2019 19:03

hamstersarse that was a very interesting discussion and he has a luxury of being a man and one that doesn’t doesn’t give a fuck, so won’t get the hate that women get. However, when he says at the end about people eventually being able to turn into women, you know he still doesn’t quite get it. All the surgery and medications in the world will never remove that male socialisation and the sense of dominance and entitlement that quite often comes with it.

Oblomov19 · 04/12/2019 20:35

Never heard of Joe Rogan before, but now a fan as he talks informed common sense!

ForeverFaff · 04/12/2019 21:01

Why was my post deleted? I didn't apply any sex based words about anyone!
Are we not allowed to call people who use unfair advantage to win sports cheats now!?

PreseaCombatir · 04/12/2019 22:43

Under his eye Forever, under his eye...

Oblomov19 · 05/12/2019 07:13

Made me very sad to see that fight. Horrible to watch.

ItsChristmaaaaaaaaas · 05/12/2019 07:58

Didn’t the defeated boxer seriously injure (and end the career) of another boxer?

Did they change categories then (obviously a much more powerful and stronger person resulting in the dreadful injuries - so like me boxing a cat). You shouldn’t be able to beat your opponent to a pulp.

Kantastic · 05/12/2019 09:09

bleacherreport.com/articles/2038764-transgender-fighter-fallon-fox-and-her-slowly-fading-fifteen-minutes-of-fame

All the science at the link saying "Scientists disagree" has now been debunked. It's now understood that MtF individuals retain male strength even when no longer producing testosterone. Does it change your opinion of this article, knowing that all the people quoted in it who accused Fox of having a massive unfair advantage were 100% correct?

Knowing this, do you think it's reasonable that Fox fought women and "won in devastating fashion," breaking one woman's skull, without informing the women of Fox's MtF status and consequent unfair advantage?

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