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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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Kit19 · 21/08/2019 11:27

Wonder why bicycle mag have brought this back again

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GirlDownUnder · 23/08/2019 08:57

Hey DarkNoise, I seem to be following you around - it’s not intentional Brew

They are MN mod’ing rules. We did revolt at the time. It was a compromise that MN made. Terms we (GC) found unacceptable were also banned ie terf, cis, and other (TRA) terms were banned TIM, etc

Deadnaming and correctly sexing are verboten and (if reported - MN don’t generally read threads) will get your post deleted. 3 deletions in a short period of time will get you perma banned.

Check out the sticky.

Yes, we try and work around, and it’s clunky but means we can at least have the convo.

Check out the Spinster thread. You might find it interesting.

ErrolTheDragon · 23/08/2019 11:38

We're not forced to use incorrect pronouns, we're barred from using correct ones if they're not an individual's preference. It's awkward, and difficult for some (in particular posters with ASD conditions) but isn't too bad a compromise imo. 'Context is key' - you won't get deleted for referring to eg Karen White as 'he'.

DarkNoise · 23/08/2019 21:35

Thank you GirlDownUnder and ErrolTheDragon Grin. Going to check the spinster thread!

Cloudyz7 · 31/08/2019 13:33

Just seen (via KF) that McK's UK speaking event has been cancelled due to lack of interest!

GirlDownUnder · 31/08/2019 13:40

It’s a real shame huh Cloudy

Someone also re-wrote RMcKs Wiki page

mobile.twitter.com/littlekittybell/status/1167548512097226752

“I wonder who on earth vandalised Rachel McKinnon's Wikipedia page? Whoever done it I'd like to buy them a pint.”

Someone’s not having a good morning Wink

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Doyoumind · 31/08/2019 13:47

I saw about the cancellation on Twitter. Strangely no mention of it on RM's Twitter Grin

OrchidInTheSun · 31/08/2019 13:59

That wiki page is fabulous GrinGrinGrin

Melroses · 31/08/2019 14:04

I suspect that the nonbinary women (does that mean women who don't conform to gender norms?) will come last in every outing, and quickly lose interest.

Jess Bradley is/was/whoknows a non binary woman.

DrLouiseMoody · 31/08/2019 14:41

I can now share an email from the director of How To Academy. I've been sitting on this for days! It speaks for itself.

And I have NO IDEA what kind of a raging transphobe would edit McKinnon's wiki, to this, for example.

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ThePurported · 31/08/2019 14:41

Yup. A cock flasher can be a 'nonbinary woman' and become a government advisor on women's rights and prison policy.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3325623-Jess-Bradley-a-government-advisor-on-womens-rights-suspended-by-NUS-over-indecent-blog-Part-iii

ThePurported · 31/08/2019 14:50

Good use of the word embarrassing there, Louise.

Remember when McK said "don't you know who I am" to Martina Navratilova? Grin

testing987654321 · 31/08/2019 15:01

How many turned up to the talk in the summer about women's sports? Several hundred?

OrchidInTheSun · 31/08/2019 15:05

Oh there were at least 700. There was not an empty seat in the whole of the QEII conference centre testing

testing987654321 · 31/08/2019 15:09

So it's definitely not lack of interest in fairness in sport that was the problem!

Louise thanks for sharing that letter, shows clearly it wasn't cancelled due to complaints.

thirdfiddle · 31/08/2019 15:39

Best outcome with McK's lecture. I wonder what proportion of the tickets that were sold were to gender critical voices hoping to ask some questions...

SophoclesTheFox · 31/08/2019 16:07

I don’t honestly know if I like the talk being cancelled due to the low interest, or the glorious, glorious wiki-jacking more Grin

Oh happy, happy day that has both of those wonders in it!

You have a great weekend now, Dr Mckinnon. Try not to get too cross Grin

SophoclesTheFox · 31/08/2019 16:11

As an aside, £25 would be ambitious for a really great speaker. I always did wonder who was going to cough that up for an obscure academic/cyclist.

The Sharron Davies/FPFW/Women’s Place one was under a tenner IIRC. And it was packed. About 700 women (and a handful of men). It’s almost as if one side of this debate translates to real life action or something, eh? And one side...really doesn’t.

MockersthefeMANist · 31/08/2019 16:11

"I've actually receieved more letters objecting to the talk than there are people attending..."

....How many letters?

Double figures?

allmywhat · 31/08/2019 16:18

I'm not at all surprised that talk was cancelled! I was wondering at the time who the target audience was meant to be. TRAs like to talk a good game about supporting each other, but how many of them were really going to pay 25 quid for this?

DrLouiseMoody did the organiser give you any clues as to WTF he was thinking?

I uploaded the picture for Rachel's pleasure, I understand they reads this thread.

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SophoclesTheFox · 31/08/2019 16:23

Still gives me the shivers, allmywhat Grin what a night!

ALittleBitofVitriol · 31/08/2019 16:28

Whatsa matter rach hun, your glitter family let you down?

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 31/08/2019 16:51

Really enjoyed that wiki page

Really cheered me up as id just read the china athlete thread and the ‘grown men pissing in the street what the fuck is wrong with them’ thread

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 31/08/2019 16:55

I have a (very) small balcony they could use to hold the little talk on. I have 2 chairs they could borrow.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 31/08/2019 16:59

I don’t honestly know if I like the talk being cancelled due to the low interest, or the glorious, glorious wiki-jacking more

Oh gosh yes, good point

Urm....i like the talk being cancelled bit but if whoever amended the wiki thread is on here i would be everso everso grateful if you could pop that info on the wiki page

Then Sophocles and I wouldn’t have to decide

Please and thank you

SophoclesTheFox · 31/08/2019 17:13

It’s a tough choice, eh Rufus Grin

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