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Edinburgh's The Skinny magazine publishes defence of "fuck up terfs" tweet

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gingerginger2 · 03/06/2019 19:03

twitter.com/theskinnymag/status/1135191908614049793

Edinburgh magazine the Skinny on the 31st May published this article www.theskinny.co.uk/sexuality/lgbt/pride-and-prejudice-what-pride-means-in-2019

It contains a piece writing by trans woman Cathy Brennan, justifying their tweets last year that advocated violence against women holding different views to their own.

The tweet they are defending in this article stated

"Any trans allies at #PrideLondon right now need to step the fuckup and take out the terf trash. Get in their faces.Make them afraid. Debate never works so fuck them up"

In the article they state

"In 2018, transphobic group Get the L Out hijacked the front of the march at London Pride. Organisers and police (who were also part of the march) did nothing. I received much criticism for demanding violent action against these TERFs. By 'criticism' I mean that I was stalked for several months on Twitter by someone purportedly from Edinburgh. The goal of Get the L Out was to make trans people unwelcome at an event where they should have felt safe. In my opinion their actions already constitute a form of violence with long-lasting implications."

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kalinkafoxtrot45 · 03/06/2019 19:04

Brennan is a thug.

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 03/06/2019 19:33

So depressing. Thuggish males threatening women and getting woke support for doing so.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 03/06/2019 19:44

So is this a different person than bugbrennan the blogger?
It can't be a coincidence

eurochick · 03/06/2019 20:11

"debate never works"

Well no. Not when you hold a wholly indefensible opinion. Better use the male tactic of intimidation, hey?

Freespeecher · 03/06/2019 20:30

Come on now. Cicero knew his way around a debate or two without ever having to 'fuck up' his opponent.

ImaginaryFoe · 03/06/2019 21:03

For those who may not be aware, Cathy Brennan is a lesbian feminist activist who was a voice in the wilderness about the misogyny of gender identity ideology long before it was even being discussed regularly on here (by just about anyone other than Dittany).

This violent person has apparently stolen Cathy's name as yet another abusive, appropriative act in the name of transactivism.

Erythronium · 03/06/2019 21:16

Yes, stealing women's names is a thing amongst some trans people.

OrchidInTheSun · 03/06/2019 21:30

This is the Cathy Brennan who wants people to 'take out the terf trash'

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Edinburgh's The Skinny magazine publishes defence of "fuck up terfs" tweet
OrchidInTheSun · 03/06/2019 21:32

And this is the radical lesbian feminist Cathy Brennan who objects to men identifying as women

Edinburgh's The Skinny magazine publishes defence of "fuck up terfs" tweet
gingerginger2 · 03/06/2019 22:32

Isn't the real story that a magazine has actually published this?

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FloralBunting · 03/06/2019 22:46

Well, quite. Misogynist fuckers on Twitter are ten a penny. They burp their poison on that website unchecked, which is obviously notable in revealing Twitter's biases, but... when a no mark Twitter misogynist is given free reign in a publication to justify and promote violence against women, that's a whole other fish fry.

Ereshkigal · 03/06/2019 22:49

They were lesbian women making a political statement. Brennan's tweet broke the law - incitement to homophobic hatred. Brennan should have been prosecuted.

MoleSmokes · 03/06/2019 23:25

@ImaginaryFoe "For those who may not be aware, Cathy Brennan is a lesbian feminist activist who was a voice in the wilderness about the misogyny of gender identity ideology long before it was even being discussed regularly on here (by just about anyone other than Dittany).

This violent person has apparently stolen Cathy's name as yet another abusive, appropriative act in the name of transactivism."

My initial reaction was, "That vile person is beneath contempt!! Angry !!! Angry !!! Angry !!!

On second thoughts, this is just such pathetic spiteful playground bullying!

@gingerginger2 What a bunch of miserable, wet blanket, whinging narcissists!

The footnote is interesting:
Article amendment (3-06-19): This article originally referred to comments Cathy Brennan made on Twitter last year regarding physical action against transphobic protestors.

The article quotes Brennan saying, "I received much criticism for demanding violent action against these TERFs."

So, the amendment serves to demonise "Get The L Out" even more than the original text?

" . . . trans protestors (at London and Glasgow Pride) were violently arrested while transphobic protestors continue to be treated with kid gloves."

Were "trans protestors" arrested? Violently or otherwise? I didn't know that.

Given Brennan's previous calls for violence against women, I wonder what this means?

" Unless meaningful action is taken against transphobes at Pride and in wider public life, then the situation will continue to deteriorate for trans people across the UK."
(my bolding)

Is it one of those "dog whistles" they are always bleating about whenever anyone does something so anodyne as quote the dictionary definition of "woman"?

SunsetBeetch · 04/06/2019 20:11

And now the lovely Cathy is threatening (and yes I think threatening can be used in the literal sense) to attend the WPUK meeting tomorrow. So that's nice.

twitter.com/TownTattle/status/1135921733041512449?s=19
Hey @bindelj @ClaireShrugged @GoonerProf I see you’re hosting a transphobic event tomorrow. I remember at For Women and WPUK it was claimed that they would invite opposing voices to speak. Well, I should be in the area tomorrow. Here are my credentials.

t.co/LP1Oo6makc

Edinburgh's The Skinny magazine publishes defence of "fuck up terfs" tweet
SophoclesTheFox · 04/06/2019 20:25

Defending an incitement to violence against lesbians is a terrible, terrible look. Then falling back on “they were asking for it” and “they deserved it”, FFS! How can you do that and call yourself progressive? (Rhetorical question of course - none of this is progressive at all).

I’ve never heard of this Cathy Brennan until now, but I’ve certainly heard of the original one. I’m utterly gobsmacked that this person has taken Cathy’s name like that! What on earth?

ImaginaryFoe · 05/06/2019 20:01

With respect to previous posters, I don't think people should use Cathy Brennan's name when talking about the actions of this person ("Brennan's tweet";"Brennan's previous calls for violence"; "the lovely Cathy"). This isn't Cathy Brennan, it's an abusive misogynist trying to ruin Cathy Brennan's name. We shouldn't help them do that. Maybe better to use TownTattle, which is the twitter handle?

Michelleoftheresistance · 05/06/2019 20:04

They've reached the 'you deserved it' stage. It's like Trump denying he said something there is filmed evidence of him saying. There be pathology there.

Edinburgh's The Skinny magazine publishes defence of "fuck up terfs" tweet
donquixotedelamancha · 05/06/2019 21:13

This isn't Cathy Brennan, it's an abusive misogynist trying to ruin Cathy Brennan's name. We shouldn't help them do that. Maybe better to use TownTattle, which is the twitter handle?

This. Does anyone know his real name? I'm usually cautious about following the rules but I don't think MNHQ will facilitate him bullying a woman.

SunsetBeetch · 05/06/2019 21:41

TownTattle was at the Edinburgh University meeting tonight.

Edinburgh's The Skinny magazine publishes defence of "fuck up terfs" tweet
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Ereshkigal · 05/06/2019 21:46

This isn't Cathy Brennan, it's an abusive misogynist trying to ruin Cathy Brennan's name. We shouldn't help them do that. Maybe better to use TownTattle, which is the twitter handle?

Good point.

SunsetBeetch · 05/06/2019 22:19

Yep, will do from now on.

Edinburgh's The Skinny magazine publishes defence of "fuck up terfs" tweet
gingerginger2 · 06/06/2019 11:50

The skinny are responsible for emboldening this obviously mentally ill person and giving him a platform.

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SunsetBeetch · 06/06/2019 21:15

They have now edited the article. I'm not sure if that's better than nothing or not.The tweeter points out later that the paper version had already been issued.

The Skinny have edited out the incitements to violence against women and references to TERFs from this individual's article- glad they saw sense and listened. Really looking forward to Edinburgh event. t.co/HTZhwvnP3O

Michelleoftheresistance · 06/06/2019 22:25

I wish they hadn't edited it, and raised eyebrows at the comment from the editor that it was a mistake to have used all of the person's article.

Why was it a mistake?

Because it's too honest and it shows the writer and the agenda for exactly what it is. So they know damn well what's wrong with it and wish to protect the writer and the agenda from the general public finding out the whole picture.

Put it out for all to see. Be honest about it. Own what you are supporting.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 06/06/2019 22:30

Edit all they like. They know that nothing ever disappears and trying to bury the cat crap never hides it completely.