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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Godfrey Elfwick's take on the #sexstrike

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LegoToast · 13/05/2019 22:46

spectator.us/sexstrike-intersectional-alyssa-milano/

"Her appallingly problematic hashtag not only excludes the trans community, it also insults us by suggesting that the sub-selection of human beings who have a uterus and are capable of gestation are known by the classification of the term ‘women’. Perhaps she forgot to add the ‘cis’ prefix to her tweet? Maybe she didn’t realize that a certain group of women still own penises and also happen to be lesbians,therefore going on a sex strike would have no impact on the issue of anti-abortion for them?"

"I am sick and tired of trans identities being erased like this.Can we please stop using the exclusionary term ‘woman’ and instead say ‘uterus owner’ or ‘person with a cervix’? That way, the word ‘woman’ can be reserved for those of us who have made a real effort to either medically transition or identify as a woman by adding ‘she/her’ to our Twitter bios. The status of womanhood should not be something you are born to; it must be EARNED."

Grin
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Ereshkigal · 13/05/2019 22:49

Godfrey has a good go there but this shit is almost impossible to parody Grin that pretty much is what transactivists said to Milano.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 13/05/2019 22:52

Well its not funny if it sounds like it could be true Sad

Apparently the writers of the thick of it refused to do a show about the referendum as it was beyond parody...

I cant tell whats a joke anymore

2BthatUnnoticed · 13/05/2019 22:56

This actually happened. No joke.

Godfrey Elfwick's take on the #sexstrike
Godfrey Elfwick's take on the #sexstrike
GirlDownUnder · 13/05/2019 23:02

"... the outdated ‘Mother’s Day’ needs to be reworded to: ‘Person Whose Internal Biological System Enables Them to Birth Younglings or Not Because it’s Their Body Their Choice Day’. Inclusivity really isn’t difficult if you throw enough words at it."

Good luck to Hallmark fitting that on a greeting card Grin

hipsterfun · 13/05/2019 23:06

I had to check this was parody Blush

ScipioAfricanus · 13/05/2019 23:11

That poor woman can’t do right for doing wrong. Constantly being berated by trans people for not thinking about them more, when she has suffered hugely from the prejudice against and harassment of WOMEN in Hollywood. When are all these trans people taking a moment to fight on her side and support her in her battles?

ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving · 13/05/2019 23:13

Fucking sad that it's come to that, isn't it. I read so many threads on Twitter which descend into fights because no one knows who's being serious vs sarcastic any more.

Society: get your shit together.

FermatsTheorem · 13/05/2019 23:14

"You're right. If I could edit I would. Thank you." "Fuck off to the far side of fuck, you wanker, and when you get there, fuck off some more."

There, Alyssa, that's fixed that for you. That's what you should have tweeted in response.

We are oppressed because men choose to weaponise our biology against us. It ain't the glitters and sparkles and pink nail varnish that leads to our need for legal abortion, it's our having uteruses. Because we're women.

Really, fuck that shit. Wilfully denying that abortion is a women's issue, and is denied to us because of a subset of men's pathological hatred for women, women's sexuality, and their warped need to control our sexuality and bodies, is beyond offensive - it's shouting loud and clear that you are in fact not a TRA, but an MRA, and solidly on the same side as the warped men who want to ban abortion. If you choose to go all "hurty-feels, I'm excluded by your language" about the single biggest political issue facing women in America right now, then you are a misogynistic arsehole.

NotTerfNorCis · 13/05/2019 23:27

made a real effort to either medically transition or identify as a woman by adding ‘she/her’ to our Twitter bios

Grin REAL women. Not like those wannabees who happen to have female biology and a lifetime of female socialisation.

Ereshkigal · 14/05/2019 00:11

"It's not hard to put "cis" before ladies, but you chose not to try, and that's transphobic behaviour".

Nauseating.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 14/05/2019 00:49

"You're right. If I could edit I would. Thank you." "Fuck off to the far side of fuck, you wanker, and when you get there, fuck off some more."

I love you FermatsTheorem.

“Fuck off you wanker”, is pretty much my default response to 90% of everything I read or hear lately.

Yeahnahyeah · 14/05/2019 01:49

You do know all the TRAs are jerking off to all the reeeeeeeing on here don't you?
They are pushing our buttons and we fall for it every time.
I don't have a solution really, but know I need a break from this board.
Confused

2BthatUnnoticed · 14/05/2019 02:13

Yes we know TRAs lurk obsessively and are constantly sock puppeteering... so what? If it brings a spark of joy into their desolate lives who can begrudge the poor dears Grin

Orchidoptic · 14/05/2019 05:29

I think I understand the parody behind the article, but all I could think was “what a crock of shit”.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 14/05/2019 05:55

Leave the TRAs to their wankery. Alyssa will hopefully realise, at some point, that they will never be satisfied and that they are just as misogynist as the right wing.

ChattyLion · 14/05/2019 06:19

Who gives a shit about validating ofhers’ delusions at a time when women are going to die because of this? The response should have been to that idiot to GTFO out of her Twitter feed until they can scrape together some normal human solidarity. This one issue where there really isn’t a grey area. You’re either against killing women or you’re for it.

I really think it shouldn’t just be up to women to resist this. Removing safe legal abortion has to be everyone’s issue because denying abortion = death (but never if you are a man and men can never know what that prospect feels like). Everyone should be really fucking outraged about this law. We should also point out: It is also radically anti-family to be anti-abortion. Even if you hate women but consider yourself to like children, who already exist and need mothers Hmm you should be pro choice.

Actual real life women- our mothers, sisters, friends, colleagues, wives, girlfriends- these women will die. Because death is what happens when women can’t get a safe legal abortion any more.

Everyone should stand in solidarity with women at this time of a terrifying fundamental attack on the lives of all women. Banning safe legal abortion is the same as giving actual death sentence to women. We just don’t know which specific woman it will affect yet, but it will start to kill women within weeks and that is horrific.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 14/05/2019 07:47

You do know all the TRAs are jerking off to all the reeeeeeeing on here don't you?

I dont care

People jerk off to all sorts of perfectly normal/innocent stuff

There are people looking at threads about periods and breastfeeding and and children and bras and jerking off

If i worried about people jerking off to posts on mumsnet I'd never be ale to post anything

And i dont mean people obviously....I'd just quite like my post not to be deleted beacuse i mention a certain type of person with a particular piece of equipment

Orchidoptic · 14/05/2019 10:08

Ah Rufus, its a good job we don’t have to pay per word used now

KatvonHostileExtremist · 14/05/2019 10:15

That was hilarious.
So close to the shit that they chat.
Knocked for six at the end

Boooooooom Grin

LegoToast · 14/05/2019 10:16

I hope that anyone TRAs lurking actually read the article at least... it will show them how silly they look!

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 14/05/2019 12:22

I know orchid

Its like that game where you have to guess a word and you are not allowed to use the actual word

And im shit at that game

DpWm · 14/05/2019 14:28

Wow so this dickhead genderqueer Muslim transperson having a rant...
Maybe didn't realise that transwomen who are lesbians will be having sex with women who fall pregnant so it's about a sex strike of all women including transwomen who get women pregnant who will strike in solidarity. Godfrey is saying he wants to exclude transwomen from the sex strike when no one else has said that?

Batshit.

DpWm · 14/05/2019 15:09

^
Dammit it's satire!
Fuck so hard to tell.
Poe's law in action right?

FermatsTheorem · 14/05/2019 20:33

The quote in the OP is satire - but the twitter exchange further on in the thread isn't.

2BthatUnnoticed · 15/05/2019 11:50

And here it is. She has dropped the terribly offensive “woman” for... “uterus” Hmm

Godfrey Elfwick's take on the #sexstrike