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P**k news has '10 transgender athletes explain why it's fair to compete'

20 replies

PalatineUvula · 05/04/2019 00:01

They've gone to some lengths to try and pretend there is some gender balance.

www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/04/04/transgender-athletes-why-fair-compete/

There is 'die in a grease fire' Rachel McKinnon, who won a cycling tournament despite never being a successful cyclist before transition

Chris Mosier, who is a transman who has never won any events

Hannah Mouncey, who is 100kg and was kept out of elite women's AFL for safety reasons (apparently broke a woman's arm?)

Schuyler Bailar who was once an elite female swimmer, but now fiinishes as one of the slowest men www.collegeswimming.com/results/130841/topswims/?page=4

Fallon Fox, who broke Tamika Brents' orbital bone, though P**k News doesn't mention this, obviously, just implying that Ronda ROusey refused to fight Fallon because of bigotry

Patricio Manuel (transman) who fought against a random bloke off the street (afaict), and won

Laurel Hubbard who won a women's World Championship silver medal at age 39 despite previously giving up weightlifting as a junior male for not being strong enough

Mack Beggs, a transboy who won girls' wrestling while on steroids

Blair Hamilton, who was previously a sports coach who was instantly signed up to play for a women's football team despite not previously playing for men

Kye Allums, another transman who played for the women's team.

So they've found 5 transmen, of which 2 played with women, 1 boasts one win vs. someone random, and 2 losers who get lots of 'stunning and brave' sponsorships.

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Redshoeblueshoe · 05/04/2019 00:14

Yep it's totally fair, as long as men always win.
Pk news should Fk o

zanahoria · 05/04/2019 00:32

so some transmen are saying its fair for them to compete as men, some say its fair to compete as women?

PalatineUvula · 05/04/2019 01:17

well the transmen who played as women did quite well, unsurprisingly.

The transmen who played as men got lots of 'stunning and brave' awards

And the transwomen who played as women got to break people's bones and beat all the women.

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TirisfalPumpkin · 05/04/2019 07:32

Fess up, who’s the mole in PN? This is going to peak people left right & centre.

NotTerfNorCis · 05/04/2019 07:37

Shame there is no comments section. I'd like to know what people really think.

DpWm · 05/04/2019 07:50

Of course trans people care going to say they should compete with the opposite sex.
Confused

They might as well get 10 anti vaxxers to say what they think about vaccinations.

DpWm · 05/04/2019 07:51

^are not care

skybluee · 05/04/2019 07:59

To be honest I've kind of given up on PN. I feel betrayed by gay men. Honestly I do. We fought for them. Why do they never fight for us?

skybluee · 05/04/2019 08:02

Also the argument of no advantage is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard in my life.

HorsewithnoDoubt · 05/04/2019 08:07

Anti vaxers and gender fans?

Venn diagram required.

Lottapianos · 05/04/2019 08:14

'I feel betrayed by gay men. Honestly I do. We fought for them. Why do they never fight for us?'

I feel the same. A gay male friend of mine, who would call himself a feminist, is totally on board with the trans bull and honestly doesn't seem to give a crap about women's need for privacy and safe spaces and autonomy. I raised it on here before and someone quite rightly said that he doesn't give a crap because he doesn't have to - he's never going to have someone of the opposite sex unexpectedly show up to do his smear test or breast exam or bra fitting. I'm still pretty gutted by the lack of empathy though

WeRiseUp · 05/04/2019 08:18

I know people who are wokestupid enough to spout these ridiculous false equivalences. It is hard to keep calm.

andyoldlabour · 05/04/2019 08:54

Just one question.

Why is Pink News relevant?

And a slight - very relevant - correction.
Blair Hamilton did play football for a men's team - in goal.
They now play in an outfield position for a woman's team.

If Pink News wanted to make this a balanced article, then why not invite 10 eleite women athletes to comment?

We know full well why they wouldn't do that.

Pink News is an echo chamber where women are excluded.

HorsewithnoDoubt · 05/04/2019 09:09

wokestupid

Great word!

BixBeiderbecke · 05/04/2019 09:21

Next week Pink News explain why doping in sport is absolutely fine. People who disagree are bigots.

R0wantrees · 05/04/2019 10:34

Pink News is an echo chamber where women are excluded.

Pink News/Benjamin Cohen has aquired considerable political access and influence.

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3390910-Can-we-talk-about-Pink-News-Collecting-examples-of-their-propaganda

andyoldlabour · 05/04/2019 12:26

Thanks ROwan that made interesting reading.

FerdinandAndHisMassiveBalls · 05/04/2019 13:58

“People talk about that as if men are super-human, as if just because you were born with a penis, that means that you can defeat every single female. And that’s not true. This world values men. We value men. We value male bodies. We don’t value women … People need to stop placing limits on how strong people can or should be, and what their bodies should look like.”

This is from Kye Allums.

Who chooses to play for the women's team (despite taking testosterone.)

What point are Pink news trying to prove here? Why do they think Kye should be on the woman's team?

FerdinandAndHisMassiveBalls · 05/04/2019 13:59

*Kye is a transman I forgot to say.

AnyOldPrion · 05/04/2019 14:20

Kye sounds like Kye despises women. Wonder why Kye wanted to transition....

And yes, ten people with a massive vested interest arguing for something that they feel will benefit them.

My eyes are rolling again. Seems to be a recurrent problem these days.

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